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July 28th, 2005

Songs you like, but others don't! @ 01:11 pm

bonoffee:
Just had to post it cause it's on my mind, lol.

Does it bother anyone else when other people have a right go at U2 songs you love? I know it shouldn't bother me because if you like something, that's enough, and who cares, right? But I was talking online to someone and she started on about hating U2's 90s stuff (ie, stuff I fooking adore and would have its babies) and and insulting The Fly and Lemon, and I just said 'oh right, fair enough', but WHY, when people know you like something, do they have to slag it off? I don't do it to other people. GAH.

This is so random, lol, sorry. I'm fed up though of having to feel bad about liking certain songs. :(
 
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From:pattinthehatt
Date:July 28th, 2005 12:22 pm (UTC)
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It's rude. Everyone has a right to his or her own opinion, of course, but if I know someone is fond of something what is the point of me being insulting about it? I am presuming you're not talking about a discussion of pros and cons here, not an, "I'm interested in why you like this song because I never cared for it. Here are my reasons... what are yours?"

I went to a lecture by someone I really admire a few years ago, and a friend insisted on going with me. I was certain it wasn't her type of thing, and I was right. She spent the entire time either wriggling around in her seat or outside smoking, and afterward went on and on in great detail about how uninteresting and pointless she found the talk, and how other folks who were out smoking were ridiculing the speaker. As much as I enjoyed the talk itself, her behavior really brought me down. She wasn't interested in having a discussion about what I got out of the talk versus what she thought of it... she just wanted to ridicule something that meant something to me.

Everyone has a right to his or her opinion, and in my own ethical system they have the right to free speech as well... but just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. It doesn't make it courteous or thoughtful, and, furthermore, your right to your opinion and to stating it certainly doesn't come along with any right to make me listen to it. :o)

Just my two cents.
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 28th, 2005 12:28 pm (UTC)
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Thank you for replying!

I am presuming you're not talking about a discussion of pros and cons here, not an, "I'm interested in why you like this song because I never cared for it. Here are my reasons... what are yours?"
Not exactly. She wasn't being mean, exactly, but we went from discussing songs we both liked to ones only I seemed to, lol.

Many of U2's songs mean a LOT to me, so I suppose it's that more than anything that bugs me. It's insulting something that helps me, and makes me happy, you know?

My brother is worse, actually. Some band was on TV and my mum asked if he liked them, and he said "No, they're the worst band since U2." And I was sitting there and he thought it was funny, and it just wasn't, because he KNEW it'd bother me and it was so ignorant. I've never once given him abuse because of his music and I don't like a lot of it. But it always seems ok to do it to me. *growls*

No wonder you were annoyed with your friend - I don't blame you!
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From:raptoe
Date:July 28th, 2005 12:36 pm (UTC)
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It depends..
When I have a discussion I feel free to give my opinion on the matter in a polite and constructive way.

However when I know people like things that I don't liek at all, I won't be bicthing about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. and everyone should respect that. Just bitching and knowing the other person differs from opinion is a bit low.
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 28th, 2005 12:39 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, a discussion is different. Just I mean, out of the blue attacking of something you like. You know? That's what i don't like.
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From:zoostation
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:04 pm (UTC)

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A friend who attacks and doesn't discuss is no friend at all.

My friend online had this problem with someone. She'd post stuff like, Gavin Degraw's CD is awesome and snarky comments like, "Gavin sounds like doody" and "you cleary have no taste in music." It's shitty and uncalled for.
Sometimes if a friend will say they hate something and you really enjoy it, you can say, "Well hey, I like it, I don't think it's so bad."
If that doesn't ruffle their feathers then you know you've found a true friend.

^ That is so much more eloquent in my head.

Anyways...it's crappy and I agree with you.
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:13 pm (UTC)
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heh, mine was more eloquent in my head too ;)

Yeah I totally hear you. I didn't fall out with my friend or anything and we're fine and it doesn't matter but it's just annoying, people think your opinion isn't worth respecting!
From:sassy_grrrl
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:13 pm (UTC)
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Wow. I think it's just "cool" to hate on everything so that's why people do it. That person sucks for hating on U2's 90's stuff.
My friends are cool and know my love for U2. They scream for me when a video or song is on.
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:17 pm (UTC)
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I don't think any of my friends are obsessed like me, so I don't talk too much about them in case they get bored. :|

So I come here instead, yippee!

I like your icon, hooray for Adam!
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From:kissmegoodbye
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:24 pm (UTC)
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I know exactly what you mean. But yeah, everyone has the right to their own opinion but it still hurts if they really bitch about something you LOVE right smack bang in your face.

My younger brother doesnt like U2 much, yet he loves ALL of their influences, Beatles, Dylan, Lou Reed etc... So its really odd that he doesn't like U2. I secretly think he does like them, but wont admit it to me. Ha. Of course, I hate the Beatles (but thats ALL I'll say. Unless I'm with someone else who shares the "hate".) And hate is a strong word and I probably don't HATE them, but y'know... :p But my brother is cool, and he doesn't slag them (U2) off at all, just that he doesn't like them.

I have this friend, a guy, who does nothing BUT slag U2 off. It's really insulting to me. If I ever so much mention any name/song/whatever, he'll be like "Oh U2 are shit, they should all die" an it's really upsetting. I'm no longer friends with this guy. (for totally different reasons, though you'd think... LOL) He was just an asshole about it. And he knew how much in love with the band I am. It used to really get to me, but I'd never bother challeneging him about it cos he'd just say worse things and upset me more. It seems silly, but you know, friends should know when to keep their traps shut. This friend also didn't know when to shut up about other things too. I'm glad I'm not friends with him anymore cos he truly is an ass. And not just for bitching like a 13 year old about a band.

Anyway, my rant is over. ;)

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From:bonoffee
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:27 pm (UTC)
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That guy sounds annoying :|

I don't like the Beatles either, so I'm with you on that. But see, if I met someone who DID like them, I wouldn't just go 'oh they're shite'!

People in general get on my nerves these days.

I'm getting old, I think.
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From:hard2explain8
Date:July 28th, 2005 01:42 pm (UTC)
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It totally bugs me too!

But the thing is, how could this person seriously rag on "The Fly"???? It's an amazing song! Whether or not you're a U2 fan, you HAVE to appreciate everything about that song!
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 28th, 2005 02:02 pm (UTC)
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TOTALLY, dude. The Fly is in my top 5. The guitar break makes me want to get up and DO things, and I'm a lazy person! ;)

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From:jinx
Date:July 28th, 2005 08:22 pm (UTC)
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Yes! I totally know what you mean--I always think, "I don't insult stuff you like--why do you do it to me?" People can really annoy me at times.
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From:canadanne
Date:July 28th, 2005 11:49 pm (UTC)

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Argh, it really bugs me when people slag off my favourite songs. I know it shouldn't bother me, and I've learned to bite my tongue when I can see there's no way of changing their opinion, but sometimes I just want to scream "What the hell is wrong with you?!" and slap them round the head a few times to try and knock some musical taste into them. ;p  I feel really protective of U2's music because it's *more* than just music to me - it's absolutely amazing and it's gotten me through some very difficult times. I really can't fathom why anyone would want to criticise some of those songs, and when they do, it feels like they're attacking my loved ones or something. I can't help wanting to leap to their defence.

And yeah, it's even worse when so-called friends slag them off even though they know how much it means to you. There's one person on my friends list who used to be a U2 fan, but for various personal reasons went off them, and now hates them with a passion. Sometimes she rants about them in her journal, which I hate seeing, but I keep my mouth shut because she can write whatever she wants in her own LJ. What pisses me off is that lately, whenever *I* post a journal entry about how happy U2 are making me, she can't resist leaving some comment about how Bono is getting fat, or Bono's charity work grates on her, or the latest album sucks. Um, why the fuck does she think I'm interested in hearing this shite?  And what kind of friend sees me in a rare ecstatic mood and feels compelled to ruin it?  It's so childish and disrespectful. I've tried to make it clear that these comments are annoying me, but if she posts any more I might seriously consider blocking her.
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 29th, 2005 01:56 pm (UTC)
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feel really protective of U2's music because it's *more* than just music to me - it's absolutely amazing and it's gotten me through some very difficult times. I really can't fathom why anyone would want to criticise some of those songs, and when they do, it feels like they're attacking my loved ones or something. I can't help wanting to leap to their defence.

Agree 100%. That's what I was probably wanting to say but you said it a lot better ;) I get so defensive because it means so much to me and it's almost like they're criticising YOU, you know? Because it's part of you. I know it's part of me.

From:echo0001
Date:July 29th, 2005 01:20 am (UTC)
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I never see any reason to rant about somebody else's favorite band just because I don't like them; a simple "Oh, I don't care much for them" is sufficient as far as I'm concerned.

I have a friend who's really into an actor on a tv show I've never seen, as I don't watch much tv. I don't think the guy's very good looking but whatever floats her boat, and if she wants to talk about him, okay by me. She listens to me swoon over my fave actor! (and without giving me shit)

I just don't listen to people who bitch about U2. I like them, I get them, I understand them. To hell with people who don't. I'm not wasting my energy arguing with trolls.

(I did once give somebody so shit over music they liked, but she was a younger family member who thought Madonna was the most musically brilliant thing she'd ever heard--I felt it was my responsibility as an older family member to expand her musical perceptions; besides she was only thirteen and in dire need of some musical education. Liking Madonna is fine; thinking she is the end all and be all of music is something else. In short, today she listens to bluegrass, Hank Williams, punk rock, and Queen; all much more musically relevant than Madonna.)
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From:sapphires13
Date:July 29th, 2005 02:48 am (UTC)
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I have that problem sometimes. For the most part, I think, it's just people that have never given U2 a chance, or else have only heard a few songs. They base their opinion on such a small amount of the glory (for lack of a better word) that is U2. It's like trying to see the world outside by only looking through your peephole. It doesn't work very well.
And usually, these people refuse to even give them a chance. They're hopeless cases.

Now, I know everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I agree that some people just spread it for the sake of being rude.
I'm a moderator for a pretty large online forum, and one of the sections I moderate is the music section. Sometimes I wonder what in the world I'm doing there. People can be so passionate about their music. Overly so.
The one thing I hate to see, is when someone makes a thread about a particular band, and then someone goes and posts on that thread for no other reason than to say how much that band sucks. It's uncalled for, and it's rude. So I chew those people out. Because I'm in charge, and I can =D
There's nothing wrong with keeping your opinion to yourself, and it's not that hard.

Just recently, there was a thread discussing the nominees for the Video Music Awards, and U2 was being discussed. One girl posted something alone the lines of:

"I hate U2, and I hope they don't win.

**kills U2 and Bono**"

I faced it with humour though, I responded with:

"**felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of fangirls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced**

**dies**"

By the way, I've added you to my friends list, because you rock. I hope you don't mind =3 (Add me back if you'd like =3)
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 29th, 2005 09:28 am (UTC)
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*blinks*

Me? I rock? Surely you have me confused with someone else! *grins* I will definitely add you back. :)

Heh, you sound a good forum mod. some aren't, ya know.

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