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July 30th, 2005

U2 fans. @ 10:51 pm

bonoffee:
This feels like all I do is moan here lately. I'm sorry! I just get so frustrated sometimes and need to get it out there, and this community, unlike some others, is full of nice, sensible, tolerant people.

Anyway. I said a few days ago how annoying it is when people slag off u2 to you. I've decided it's even worse when you get those u2 fans who hate everything they do, or they hate particular songs and even though you've said you like it, they'll argue with you like you have no right to have that opinion. AND people who go on about the newer stuff as if it's some sort of betrayal to like that as well as the old stuff. I mean, what's wrong with enjoying Vertigo? It's one of my faves but I mentioned that elsewhere and I might as well have said Bono's a murderer, for all the outcry it received. Fair enough, disagree, but don't make me feel stupid for liking a bloody song that makes me happy.

OH, and also, I can't help I was born after Boy came out and couldn't go and see them in the 80s because I was a small child! So why do some people who DID see them then act as if they're superior? I can still appreciate the music now...

Gah. Sorry. :(

(The latest is someone telling me there's no concept to AB.)
 
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From:zoostation
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:03 pm (UTC)
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(The latest is someone telling me there's no concept to AB.)

Blasphemy!
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:10 pm (UTC)
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I KNOW, dude. It's probably really sad that I'm getting upset about it, but that album is the love of my life!
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From:hard2explain8
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:05 pm (UTC)
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I definitely don't enjoy when people pull the "Well, I've been a fan longer than you" card. Who cares how long you've liked them? We all like the same band for basically the same reasons? Shouldn't that bring us all closer together? Shouldn't that make us happy to find other fans? It should, but too bad that it doesn't.

I guess I'm just not as good a fan because I was born right around the time UF was released, and I was a BIT too young to know all the words to "A Sort of Homecoming" when I was, you know, 2 months old.

All that matters is that we all have a common interest- one of the best bands EVER.
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From:bonoffee
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:13 pm (UTC)
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Exactly. I was born around the time of War, I suppose, so I think if you and I started singing their songs we'd have been very advanced babies ;)

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From:bonoffee
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:16 pm (UTC)
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Me? Lol! Well, funny you should say that...
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From:chelsea_doll
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:14 pm (UTC)
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I was born after Boy was made, and although I've been a fan since 1987 thanks to some lovely family members...I still hate the "You're too young to be a fan. You can't appreciate it the way we do...we were there, man." Okay, I agree that they have a bit of an advantage because they experienced the music when it was new and fresh. But when I first heard the early stuff, it was new and fresh to me and just as exciting...why can't the younger fans have the same enthusiasm?

Even when I went to see them in San Jose, I was the line moderator because I had gotten there first and there were comments such as, "Isn't she too young?" or "Has she even heard anything before HTDAAB?" It was insulting. Do they think I would have been there at 4am if I didn't? Anyway...you're not the only one that gets this and is frustrated by it.
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From:reilly_tyne
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:16 pm (UTC)
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Critics can say whatever they want, but when it come down to it, you have to call them on it. Ask them "Where's your succesful album again? Because I didn't see any CDs with your mug on the cover at Best Buy".
From:_palepurple
Date:July 30th, 2005 10:18 pm (UTC)
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Ugh, that's annoying. Just tune them out.

We're all fans. We should be supportive, not competitive.
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From:la_vation
Date:July 31st, 2005 01:08 am (UTC)
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I just roll my eyes at people who blasphemy AB. Trust me that the same thing has been said since it came out. Change can be a trial for some people but it's why I enjoy listening to that music much more. The same people would go off on Atomic Bomb (AB2) so...whaat
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From:canadanne
Date:July 31st, 2005 01:09 am (UTC)
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The latest is someone telling me there's no concept to AB.

Ummmmmmmmm.
I suggest they buy themselves a copy of U2 At The End Of The World, that is if they have the intellectual capacity for something like reading.

Personally I think it's an odd sort of fan who refuses to even *try* and appreciate songs they're not sure about. I'm sure we all have moments when we think the music's not up to the usual standard, and inevitably we'll like some stuff better than other stuff, but I've *always* given each song another chance and tried my best to find something positive about it. And in 99.999% of cases, the song has grown on me a lot and I'm glad I didn't just write it off. I don't expect casual listeners to make that kind of effort, but why would any hardcore U2 fan *want* to dislike the music??  Why be so stubbornly negative when you might be depriving yourself of such joy?  I don't understand it.

Don't ever feel stupid for liking a song. Just pity the argumentative people who will never be able to feel the happiness that it brings you. It's their loss.
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From:drive_away18
Date:July 31st, 2005 03:40 am (UTC)
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i just finished at the end of the world...i loved it
From:xxradiohead
Date:July 31st, 2005 02:50 am (UTC)
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I think I love you in the strangest stranger way. I feel the same way; I tell people I like U2 and they look at me as if I have a disease, or at least, if they like U2 they go off about how their new music sucks, the older music was better, et cetera. I almost agree, but my music taste varies on my mood, so I like the fact that U2 has a very wide range of music styles, because I can almost always listen to a U2 song that works for me.

OH, and also, I can't help I was born after Boy came out and couldn't go and see them in the 80s because I was a small child! So why do some people who DID see them then act as if they're superior? I can still appreciate the music now...
I'm mentally applauding you, madly. I get so sick of seeing some people go off about "kiddies" just because they're older and "wiser". At least we have the good sense to appreciate good music, instead of that MTV trash that I've refused to watch since the popularity of TRL.

You now hold a very high status in my head as far as LJers go. And your icon is the best.
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From:zoostation
Date:July 31st, 2005 03:28 am (UTC)
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I tell people I like U2 and they look at me as if I have a disease, or at least, if they like U2 they go off about how their new music sucks, the older music was better, et cetera.

For the most part, I get number 1 all the times from my friends. Today at Chili's SYCMIOYO came on the radio and all I could hear was the bass. And I recognized it immediately (obsess much?) and I called it out and sang along (softly, I might add) and my friends looked away. My guy friend just shook his head. Dude it's U2. U2! Top of the world rock band. Who else could you say is in that place? No one!
I got the last bit from my Godmother, who saw my U2 ticket on the wall. She was like, "my husband wanted to take me to the U2 concert, but I refused cause nothing can compare to U2 of the eightes. I'm like, "HTDAAB is really good though. And you should give a listen to ATYCLB, it's not so much of their 90's stuff."
That's pretty much where the conversation ended. She didn't even want to give it a try even though I was motioning to my stereo. Her husband on the other hand, heh, I got him to listen to AB at a party and he fell in love with early 90's U2. I burned him all these copies of cd's in hopes he'll enjoy them.

I get so sick of seeing some people go off about "kiddies" just because they're older and "wiser".

I KNOW! At another party they had 80's music playing and I was totally jamming to it. This snobby friend of my Godmother walked by and she's like, "You're a little too young to like this 80's stuff. How do you know this?"
You can't be serious. I'm not completely devoid of music taste just cause I was born like 15 years after you! Songs don't just vanish a year after they were written!

Anyways, enough ranting. I'm on the same page with you. I think most 16-25 year old U2 fans are on the same page. And I'm glad I've heard Bono recognize this new crop of U2 fans (dropping ticket prices for the next tour).
Res-pect!
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From:drive_away18
Date:July 31st, 2005 03:43 am (UTC)
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I'm 17 and I was born right before the jousha tree and I get the too young thing all the time. I just shake your head at those people who say things like that...u can like anything you heart desires...and no one should put you down for it.

From:echo0001
Date:July 31st, 2005 04:34 am (UTC)
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chelsea_dollsaid:I still hate the "You're too young to be a fan. You can't appreciate it the way we do...we were there, man." Okay, I agree that they have a bit of an advantage because they experienced the music when it was new and fresh. But when I first heard the early stuff, it was new and fresh to me and just as exciting...why can't the younger fans have the same enthusiasm?

You know, I really have a hard time understanding people who start throwing albums out, or stop listening to them, just 'cause they're not 'new' any more. No matter what the music is. I know people who've gone through their music and tossed stuff that they consider "old"--like shallow trendies throwing out perfectly good clothes because "Oh, I bought that last year...."

If it's good music, it doesn't get old, it doesn't get stale, it doesn't age (at least, not for a very long time).

I've been a U2 fan for ages (I was born about the time Bono was getting ready to turn 11); one of the things I love about younger U2 fans is that they don't dismiss the early stuff. They know, or learn, that good music is not like magazines--you don't throw it out or dismiss it just 'cause it didn't come out last week.

Let's hear it for the smart young music fans---YAAAAYYY!!!
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From:monkeydrvr
Date:July 31st, 2005 06:18 am (UTC)
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U2 has been touring for one year longer than I've been alive (I think.) So I got into the game a little late. Big deal. Does that make me any less of a fan? Just because I have to work my way backwards through their history to listen to some of the music that was released when I was in utero (and before) doesn't mean I can't appreciate it for what it is/was.

And seriously...how can someone still call him/herself a true fan if he/she won't at least even listen to a new album? How do you know you won't like it if you never even give it a try? It may not be the same as the music they put out in the 80's but *gasp* musicians mature through their careers just like we *gasp* mature (hopefully) through our lives.

Why can't we all just get along?! :-D

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