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August 30th, 2005

Just to make a very slight point. @ 10:03 pm

playingthetart:
I'm currently feelin: tired tired

You know, because I can.

Some of the most popular and newer bands at the moment have not only given credit to U2 for the doors they opened in the past but have also given credit to their work (albums/songs/tours/videos) to U2 and their ideas.

So it's not really all that far-fetched to say that some of the music and bands out there today are copying U2. Whether you appreciate that bands music or not is entirely your choice.

But it's been a spoken fact among bands such as Green Day, The Killers, Razor Light and Coldplay that U2 is a huge influence on the road and in the studio.
 
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From:zoostation
Date:August 31st, 2005 03:10 am (UTC)
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Yeah I really don't see why people get offended in the first place. If anything, it's flattering to see all these people being introduced into "new music" that you've already loved.
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From:playingthetart
Date:August 31st, 2005 03:11 am (UTC)
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Exactly. And seriously, I have every right to go call Coldplay 'Diet U2' if I want, the band has all but done that themselves!

And you can't tell me the 'Speed of Sound' video doesn't look identical to U2's set up. Pfft. :P
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From:hew_
Date:August 31st, 2005 03:20 am (UTC)
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I think bands should try to develop their own style rather than be imitating someone else... They end up being rip-offs.

I hate it when they call Coldplay the next U2. UGH.
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From:playingthetart
Date:August 31st, 2005 03:23 am (UTC)
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I totally agree with you on that one. I think all musicians get a large majority of their ideas from something they've heard, read, discussed, etc. That's perfectly normal, it's how the human muse works. And I don't think it's a big deal for any band to be influenced by U2 or any other band before their time.

But yeah, sometimes it's a bit crazy. And Coldplay only aggrivates me because Chris Martin acts as if U2 are washed up or don't have anything left, but then gets around Bono and all but kneels at his feet. And he's actually said "We're trying to sound like U2, we can't help it, we like them" which does aggrivate me yes. It's not like they don't have songs that I like but I don't think they sound anything like U2 nor are they replacing them. Seem to steal a lot visually, though.
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From:themegs
Date:August 31st, 2005 04:05 am (UTC)
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How much do I love you? Oh so much.
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From:playingthetart
Date:September 1st, 2005 12:48 am (UTC)
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Aww, yeah?
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From:unorthodox_muse
Date:August 31st, 2005 08:38 am (UTC)
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Influence and copy have two different meanings. To copy is to make a reproduction of. To influence is to affect the the nature, development, or condition of. To modify.

Nothing wrong at all with U2 being an influence to newer bands! I admire many of the bands that U2 was influenced by as well.



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From:playingthetart
Date:September 1st, 2005 12:49 am (UTC)
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That's exactly what I said. But as a fan to any fandom or group, harping on one band for being an actual influence isn't all that fair. Especially when you're going at the fans for pointing out those things.
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From:trashcan17
Date:August 31st, 2005 12:50 pm (UTC)
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errr ain't Green Day been around nearly as long as U2 now !

And Coldplay, Killer, Razorlight etc also take a hell of a lot of influence from the 1960's. Same as Kasiser Chiefs, Zutons etc

And U2 took a lot from the likes of the Clash and other "punk" and early new wave bands of the 1970's/80s as well as looking further back Blues (BB King etc so much so they got him to guest later in their careers), and the likes of Lou Read, Iggy Pop etc etc
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From:astartesyriaca
Date:August 31st, 2005 07:30 pm (UTC)
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U2 formed in 1978
Green Day formed in 1989 (some members had been together for a few years at this point).

I guess its a matter of age and perspective to say that Green Day has been around almost as long as U2, but my vote would be a resounding NO. Also, although I agree with your list of influences, U2 WAS a punk band, contemporary with the Clash, and their other big influence, the Ramones.

Can someone please answer for me what the deal is with Coldplay? I actually like some of their songs, but to compare them with U2 is just crazy-talk to me.
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From:playingthetart
Date:September 1st, 2005 12:54 am (UTC)
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U2 was actually together in 1976 but only started "playing" in '78.

And I don't get all that much with Coldplay either. I think Chris Martin has a decent voice, yeah, but in my opinion they don't really have anything that makes them much different from the other bands out there today, musically anyway.

Though, that's not really the point of the post. Heh. I was just stating that I didn't get why some people were so upset when others said that Coldplay (Or Green Day, The Killers, etc) were copying U2. Those bands themselves have claimed to that, so...
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From:trashcan17
Date:September 1st, 2005 08:12 am (UTC)
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Granted Green Day only been about since 1987 which was the point U2 went global and their sound changed from the more Youthful Raw un trained Punky sound of 79 to 84 to its more refined adult global sound

On the Coldplay thing I heard the last single on the radio and I thought hey this is a new U2 song and where did it appear from .... they had so "ripped" the sound and style of some U2 material it was unreal when heard on the off chance ..
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From:playingthetart
Date:September 1st, 2005 12:52 am (UTC)
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That's why I said "most popular" and "newer", not both.

Greenday hasn't been around as long, no. They're about a generation behind and that's nothing against them, most people wouldn't know that about Tool or that Kaynard loves Edge so much he asks if he can use riffs and solo's for his own stuff.

Point being, the bands do recognize U2 as an influence to them, whether it was back in the 80's or from the Elevation tour.
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From:dude___itsjesus
Date:September 2nd, 2005 11:59 pm (UTC)
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Green Day likes U2 and Billie Joe,the lead singer,likes Bono's political views...they're not much influenced by U2,by they admire U2.Green Day's have been a band since 1982,but with a different name,"Sweet Children".There's nothing wrong with influence.Influence is what makes bands.


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From:playingthetart
Date:September 3rd, 2005 12:07 am (UTC)
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I never said there was anything wrong with it and I completely and totally agree with you.

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