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October 2nd, 2005

Question re: Elipse @ 10:56 am

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Date:October 2nd, 2005 04:17 pm (UTC)
how does the scan thing work? is it ranndom or is there some sort of method to it? that would suck if the person you went with didnt get it and you did, or vise versa
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Date:October 2nd, 2005 04:56 pm (UTC)
Someone scans the barcode on your ticket, and a computer screen either says "VERTIGO" (which means you go to the ellipse) or "Proceed to floor." It's random-but-not-random -- there is a formula that is set by the tour director, and it randomises the scanning. There is no pattern tho. It's not like every tenth person scans for the ellipse.

If you do get scanned, you get to take someone with you into the ellipse, so if you're with a friend, the two of you have twice the chance of being scanned. It gets iffy with groups of three or more. Sometimes, U2's security let a third person in (this happened to me once), but it doesn't always happen. It really depends on who is overseeing the scan at the time and, it seems, what the gender of the left-out person is. I watched the scans in Anaheim whilst waiting for a friend, and if the left-behind person was a girl, the chances of security waving in a threesome was much greater than if the left-behind person was a guy (this happened to me in San Diego...the lone guy in our threesome was not given a wristband). This letting-a-third-person in may have changed. I heard that they tightened up on it a lot as the first leg progressed, and what little I've heard about the third leg hasn't been very encouraging.
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Date:October 2nd, 2005 04:59 pm (UTC)
I'd heard last time around that the later you went, the better chance you had to get in, maybe because they wanted to get more people into the Ellipse? Not sure if that's still holding true.

It's a risk, though, because if you go late and don't get in, you're nowhere near the front. And get there BEFORE the opening band starts playing - I've heard at some venues they stop scanning shortly after the opener starts.

My recommendation is if you can't get to the front, and don't get into the Ellipse, is to hang back by the soundboard area. Usually more room, and better to see the show.
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Date:October 2nd, 2005 05:05 pm (UTC)
It's not exactly random. I went GA to all four Toronto shows, and was scanned into the ellipse on the first night. I was outside on the rail (Edge's side) the second night. On the third night, we were again outside on the rail (Adam's side), but we had these really obnoxious groupies behind us, determined not only to get onstage with Bono, but to get *backstage*. Anyway, before the concert even started, they were elbowing us in the back, and so on, so we decided to gamble and leave the rail as we heard that members of the U2 staff were coming out after U2 had taken the stage and were handing out extra wristbands to get into the ellipse. It paid off for us, and we ended up in the ellipse again, but as we were waiting for the staff member, we decided to go see what was happening around the tables with the scanners.

What we observed there was that the number of people getting into the ellipse near the back of the line was significantly higher than it had been for those at the front of the line. Near the front, it was somewhere between 1/15 and 1/20 getting in (on average), but near the back it seemed to be that every second or third person was getting in.

Also, staff were allowing people with children into the ellipse without scanning, so it's not random at all, by my observation.

As for taking in another person, I basically ditto what ladyclayton said. We were in a group of three on the night we got into the ellipse, and security seemed fine with allowing groups of three.

But yes, if you want a great spot, either inside or outside of the ellipse, you're going to have to line up. Although, the second time we were in the ellipse, we were in the back of it, and it was still great. :D

You'll have a wonderful time regardless!

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