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November 2nd, 2005

Best Albums - with a twist @ 11:22 pm

onebadkite:
I finally got around to finish the Bono article in Rolling Stone. Boy that man can talk forever. In the sidebar where he reviews all the studio albums, he ends HTDAAB with this "It's the best collection of songs we've put together - there's no weak songs. But as an album, the whole isn't greater than the sum of its parts, and it fucking annoys me."

That got me to thinking.... which album do you think is best as a whole? a concept? as a theme?

Conversely, which album do you think is just a group of good songs, but not a sound whole piece?
 
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From:onebadkite
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:25 am (UTC)
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I think I would have originally placed AB in both answers. But I have never ever liked "Trying to Throw..." Plus, the more I go back to Ultraviolet and Acrobat, which are part of the original triad I couldn't stop playing (with Love Is Blindness), the messier they sound to me. So I have to go with AB as the best album as an idea.

As far as the greatest 'collection of songs' I have to go with Bono on this one. I love each piece of HTDAAB, but to me it just doesn't... meld. I even like 'A Man and a Woman' and 'One Step Closer,' which seem to be the two most panned songs on the album. Contrast track placement like Bullet The Blue Sky and Running to Stand Still works for me. But putting SYCMIOYO against Love and Peace... doesn't. I'm not entirely sure why. And 'One Step Closer,' despite my affinity, just doesn't seem to fit anywhere.
From:sabneraznik
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:28 am (UTC)
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Achtung Baby, hands down the best.
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From:slfcllednowhere
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:29 am (UTC)
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Boy that man can talk forever.

Haha! My favourite part is where he says "I'm sick of Bono. And I am Bono."

Anyway, to answer your question, the first one I mean...hmm. Joshua Tree, I think. Honourable mention to Achtung Baby!
From:nonsvch
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:33 am (UTC)
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let's just say Achtung Baby kicks ass and end it on that.
From:onebadkite
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:53 am (UTC)
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Hrm... that goes against my point. Don't worry, Achtung Baby won't be offended if you see War behind it's back, or flirt with Zooropa.
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From:leggy1979
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:39 am (UTC)
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i think the best theme was Achtung Baby.... The best album.... well that depends on my mood!
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From:gwytherinn
Date:November 3rd, 2005 05:41 am (UTC)
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Wow, great icon!! And I agree, best album as a whole, Achtung Baby.
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From:sapphires13
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:51 am (UTC)
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I laughed so loud when I read that bit (and it was the very last bit I read, as I saved the sidebar for after I'd finished the interview), and I must agree with him. It fucking annoys me too. I love every song on HTDAAB (well, except one, wanna guess which?), but I don't really like the album. I like listening to the songs, on shuffle, with the rest of my U2 music, but I don't like just kicking back with the whole album. They don't fit together well.

As for best album... ACHTUNG BABY! All the way. It's so perfect. I love every single song to pieces, and while yes, I do like listening to the songs on shuffle with everything else, I much prefer kicking back and listening to it from start to finish. It's absolutely perfect. The album begins in one place, and takes you on a journey (on a train, duh) and ends somewhere else entirely. Love. Love. Love.
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From:specialcamper
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:51 am (UTC)
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I really like Unforgettable Fire. It starts with a strong song, the rest of the songs flow together nicely and then it ends beautifully.

As for theme, it's all about War. What can I say? All the political meanings in the songs. Just little Peter Rowans face on the cover conveys it all.
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From:siorai_gra_
Date:November 3rd, 2005 04:54 am (UTC)
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Like Bill Flanagan said in the bible (aka U2:At The End Of The World) AB is joruney and tells a story. While all the songs are amazing them together is a while lot better.

I think Pop is SOooooo underappreciated. I think its alot better than All That You Cant Leave Behind. ATYCLB has several weak songs. Pop has one. Pop is a kick ass collection of songs. But I cant deny the passion in War. So its a toss up for me
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From:whatsername_31
Date:November 3rd, 2005 05:34 am (UTC)
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I agree Pop is VERY under rated. I listen to it a lot. Even my friend who rode down with me to see U2, who had never really listened to it(she is a fan, just not hardcore) really liked it as well...
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From:tinamachina
Date:November 3rd, 2005 05:03 am (UTC)
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Achtung Baby is the most consistent, the most solid (in other words, the one I least likely have to touch the skip button.)

Pop has a lot of good songs, but the over-production ruined it. Too much techno--it doesn't even sound like Larry even played on the album. Stripped down, "Please", "Wake Up Dead Man", "Gone", "Staring at the Sun", and "If God Will Send His Angels" are beautiful! "Discotheque" and "Do You Feel Loved" are perfect as is.
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From:mmmmjournal
Date:November 3rd, 2005 05:20 am (UTC)
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Do we really need a post about this?

"Joshua Tree" DEFINES what an album should be. Most bands, most albums, you could just mix and match the songs randomly, put them in any order on any CD, and if the songs were good, the CD would be good. But JT is different.... the collection of songs tell a story, and to listen to them out of order or one by one takes something away from the entire presentation. Mix in the B-sides that didn't make the cut and you really get something special.

I wouldn't change "Dark Side of the Moon," "Sgt. Pepper," or "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road," and part of the reason why they're considered such classics is because of the way the songs fit together and deliver one larger concept over the course of the entire album. Same with JT. I don't think there's ever been another album that works better AS an album than JT.
From:onebadkite
Date:November 3rd, 2005 05:34 am (UTC)
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Yes we need a post about this. :-P You're the first one to seriously give some credit to JT and not just name it.
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From:whatsername_31
Date:November 3rd, 2005 05:31 am (UTC)
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Best as a whole..man this is hard. I would have to say "Achtung Baby" all the songs are very progressive and mesh well together. As well as the themes of love throught the album seem to tie it together for me..

Best as a group of songs..well I could pick any. Honestly at the moment "HTDAAB" is actually my favourite for that. I really like this one a lot.
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From:rational_twists
Date:November 3rd, 2005 06:07 am (UTC)
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I love love love Atomic Bomb. I love every song; every lyric just clicks with me. And sometimes I listen to it and it all flows together very nicely. But other times, the last half of the album just feels... weak. And certainly not the songs themselves (I don't care how many people knock A Man and a Woman, the lyrics are poetry in its purest form), but just the way they flow together.

Even though I've been on a Bomb for the last several months, Achtung Baby still steals my heart for best album. Ever.
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From:rational_twists
Date:November 3rd, 2005 06:08 am (UTC)
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Eeeesh, and I've been on a Bomb kick too. It's way too late for my burned out body. :/
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From:thanks4thefish
Date:November 3rd, 2005 06:15 am (UTC)
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Achtung Baby hands down.

Achtung Baby tells a story from start to finish. Someone mentioned Bill Flanagan's excellent description of the thread in AB in U2:At the End of the World. I'm repeating what Flanagan says here, but it's basically the same story as we see in Ulysses. Reeling from some form of betrayal, a man wanders through Nighttown. As he walks through the night, he goes through the entire range of emotions; pain, betrayal, self-pity, anger, hurt, revenge, until he's travelled so far down the rabbit hole that he barely recognizes his own voice (that would be the distortion in Bono's voice on The Fly). Finally, as the sun comes up, he bottoms out and crawls back home (Tryin' to Throw...). The last three songs are all about confronting the hypocrisy and deceit in the actions of those you love (I must be an acrobat/to talk like this and act like that), and the beginning of the slow process of healing. No other album has a story line that can be followed so clearly.

As for a collection of songs...hard to say as it's very easy to draw out a cohesive theme from just about every album. Even Pop and HTAAB, while seemingly a collection of songs, have identifiable themes.
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From:bonoffee
Date:November 3rd, 2005 03:54 pm (UTC)
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Ach you stole my answer. :p Lmao but yeah I was gonna say AB for the story-concept, every track is vital if you want the overall picture and theme. And it's so dark and sexual.

Random but as I was reading what you wrote, a fly landed on my arm as I read 'The Fly'! How weird!
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:November 3rd, 2005 07:14 am (UTC)
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I think that The Unforgettable Fire would be my answer for the first question. More than any other U2 album, I feel like the songs blend into one another so seamlessly. I imagine the entire album exists in some otherworldy place. Thematically, it's very transient to me, which is something I love about Radiohead's work (and some of Sting's as well). The Joshua Tree is very grounded in a specific space (the American Southwest), but UF is more ethereal and Impressionistic.

As for the latter, I agree with Bono; Atomic Bomb is a brilliant collection of songs, but it's like a U2 mixed tape.
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From:samuti
Date:November 3rd, 2005 09:40 am (UTC)
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I agree with you on both answers :)
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From:gracejames
Date:November 3rd, 2005 01:24 pm (UTC)
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Joshua Tree and AB sort of slug it out for best overall album.

Joshua Tree had a gritty hopelessness all through it. It felt like you were listening to it while camping in the desert - dusty and thirsty. It was your relationship with a fucked-up world.

AB was more about the things that happen between two people who love each other and hate each other. It went down to that dark place in your heart with a flashlight and made you look. You can hear the band struggle with success (JT) and failure (Rattle and Hum)all in one sigh.

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