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November 16th, 2005

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walrusoct9:
I'm currently hearin: Cardigans - "Super Extra Gravity"

Some observations about the Vertigo DVD:

* Well, even Hamish at his camera-switching worst couldn't make this video as hard to watch as Boston...there's even some shots where the camera stays one one band member for two, maybe even three seconds. It's not Rattle And Hum, but for Hamish, it's a big step. (Although "Bullet" is almost unwatchable due to "Hamish-itis")
* Maybe only the DVD tech nerds will notice this one, but does anyone else think this video is extremely pixilated compared to Boston and Slane?
* They played "Vertigo" twice on May 10th, and still ended up using the May 9th version for the DVD. No idea why, since the May 10th encore version was probably the best I've ever heard.
* The rich people in the lower level seats a) have no rhythm, b) have no idea what to do during the songs they don't know (i.e. "An Cat Dubh"). It's kind of funny.
* Edge on "Electric Co" is just brilliant...I know the band wants to move forward, but it kinda makes you wonder what even a one-off set of Boy and October era stuff would be like if they played it now. However...
* ...Could anyone else use a little more Edge in the mix?
* Interestingly, while the May 10th "Elevation" was the one shown on TV back in June, they used the May 9th version where Bono has throat problems during the middle section. I'm still not sure why this is. (other than maybe to show their human side? *shrug*)
* Don't you think the kid he pulls up during "Into The Heart" could be Harry Potter if they put a flashback scene into one of the later movies? (incidentally, anyone else wondering why they didn't use the girl from the May 9th show? She was way into it...the kid on the DVD seems to have no idea what's going on)
* Once again, the awesomeness of the blinding light flash on "Streets" (even if it's at the end of the song this time) is not captured on video at all. That's the time for the big audience panning shot, not another closeup of Bono. (although compensation points for the great shots of Bono and Adam at the end of the song)
* The audience is more into it than the Boston show, but they're disappointingly low in the audio mix. When they did "Vertigo," you could hear 20,000 people yell back "Hola," but there's virtually no audience in the audio mix at all, which detracts a bit from the show's loudest moments of audio singalongs. It's a tough balance because you don't want so much audience that it drowns out the band, but it takes away from the atmosphere a bit, IMO.
* Best "wha?" moment: After the last chorus of Zoo Station, you hear Bono sing something over the outro riff, yet he's holding the microphone at his side. At least at that point in the video, the audio is from May 10th and they used video from the 9th. Tsk tsk...
* Footage of Bono during "An Cat Dubh" is not something I would ever show to non-fans. But at least us fans can get a few laughs out of it.
* I love Gavin Friday's music (seriously, buy his albums, if you can find one), but he is a very weird individual on camera.
* The edit between "Yahweh" and "40"...awkward.
* For anyone keeping track, as far as I can tell, "Vertigo," "Elevation," "Beautiful Day," "Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own," "Bullet The Blue Sky," "Yahweh," and "40" are all from May 9th. The "Miracle Drug" speech is from the 9th but the actual song is from the 10th.


So the verdict? It's good, better than Boston, but I still don't feel like it truly represents the experience we had at those shows. Obviously it's impossible to fully recreate the feeling of U2 live, but I thought the Sydney and Mexico City videos seemed to have a bit more atmosphere to them. Just a personal opinion though. It might just be the U.S. audiences...we were nuts on the rail outside the ellipse, but it doesn't carry through the arena...there seems to be a lot of apathy in U.S. crowds at times, which is possibly why so many U.S. bands like Green Day and Bon Jovi still film their live DVD's in Europe. Still, I have a feeling that we'll see the Milan Vertigo DVD in the next year or two, so then we'll be able to pick and choose. :)
 
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From:rockstarsex
Date:November 16th, 2005 08:01 am (UTC)
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Thanks for the observations! :)

"* Footage of Bono during "An Cat Dubh" is not something I would ever show to non-fans. But at least us fans can get a few laughs out of it.
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...what'd he do during An Cat Dubh? I haven't got the DVD yet.
From:walrusoct9
Date:November 16th, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
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He was playing "Cat Bono." It's pretty funny.
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From:treatyoself
Date:November 19th, 2005 05:52 am (UTC)
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I know! I was like, what is he doing?! Hilarious.
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From:unorthodox_muse
Date:November 16th, 2005 09:07 am (UTC)
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"* The rich people in the lower level seats a) have no rhythm, b) have no idea what to do during the songs they don't know (i.e. "An Cat Dubh"). It's kind of funny."


~~~I can't wait to see it just for that alone lol!
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From:shakenstatic
Date:November 16th, 2005 03:07 pm (UTC)
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* The rich people in the lower level seats a) have no rhythm, b) have no idea what to do during the songs they don't know (i.e. "An Cat Dubh"). It's kind of funny.

1) I was sitting in the lower level seats 2) I'm not rich 3) I have rhythm 4) I know An Cat Dubh.....

That said, about 90% of the people in the lower level seats WERE lame (I also sat in the lower seats on the 5/12 and they were lame then too...)...just standing there with blank looks and drool running down their faces. I might have been drooling too, but that was more to do with the Edge's guitar collection and his ability to play said instruments.
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:November 16th, 2005 07:03 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I had the same thing on the first show I went to. Well, except for having rhythm bit (me = spazz). But there were *plenty* of people around us who were just...staring and doing nothing. Not dancing (or dancing badly in my case), not singing along (even not to singles), not doing...well, anything. I don't understand the point in going to a U2 concert if you're just going to act like you would at at the opera or something. A rock show is about movement and craziness!
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From:shakenstatic
Date:November 16th, 2005 08:07 pm (UTC)
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I know, I mean, c'mon at least clap or sway or something folks...the other thing I don't understand is people who spend tons of money on tickets and then get so fall down drunk that they don't know where they are...and subsequently, the location of their car after the show...
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From:bonoffee
Date:November 16th, 2005 04:36 pm (UTC)
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Haven't watched it yet (damn essays) but I could ALWAYS use a little more Edge in my mix. ;)
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From:ajamison
Date:November 16th, 2005 04:49 pm (UTC)
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Sidenote: That Cardigans album you're listening to.....is incredible.
From:walrusoct9
Date:November 16th, 2005 06:05 pm (UTC)
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Really? I honestly have to say I'm pretty disappointed..."Long Gone Before Daylight" instantly became one of my favorite records of the decade from the first time I heard it...other than a couple of tunes, there isn't much on the new disc that's really grabbing me. *shrug*

On the other hand, them following up LGBD is like trying to follow up "Pet Sounds" or "The Joshua Tree," it's possible to do something good but nearly impossible to reach that same level.
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From:ajamison
Date:November 16th, 2005 06:10 pm (UTC)
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I totally agree with you there. LGBD was one of the best albums I've heard in the past few years....And sadly, not many know about it.

Essentially what I meant about SEG is that's it's still a lot better than all the crap put out there today...I definitely really enjoy the album.
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From:sirensong984
Date:November 16th, 2005 04:56 pm (UTC)

Good review

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I noticed the Streets thing too. Hamish has missed it both times. Like maybe he doesn't *get it*

and uh...he didn't capture Bono when he first comes out at the beginning on COBL. I was there, it was cool, I was looking forward to seeing that again.

It's a nice DVD..but it's missing parts.
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From:thegoal_issoul
Date:November 17th, 2005 02:52 pm (UTC)

Re: Good review

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really? damn. i was looking forward to that part too. :(
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From:canadiens1160
Date:November 16th, 2005 05:09 pm (UTC)
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Hmm with all the nicpicks about this DVD, maybe I'm better off waiting for the Milan DVD, assuming they're doing it. If the difference were the same as Boston/Slane, then it'd be worth the wait.
From:walrusoct9
Date:November 16th, 2005 06:07 pm (UTC)
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I think it's still worth seeing, it's not bad, it's just not as good as it could have been, which I think is 90% the director's fault for not really "getting it." The regular 1-disc version is onsale in lots of places for under $15, I think it's still worth owning even if it's not the best produced DVD ever made.

Also, Hamish directed the Milan footage, so visually it will probably look similar, although the show itself was quite different.
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From:canadiens1160
Date:November 16th, 2005 09:19 pm (UTC)
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I suppose I'd just get the 2-disc version. Is the Behind the Tour doc any good? I'm not really interested in the Surveilance Cam footage....as is the case with most people.
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From:treatyoself
Date:November 19th, 2005 05:20 am (UTC)
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I thought the doc was pretty interesting and well done. Plus, I'm in it! - for like a second! ;)
From:walrusoct9
Date:November 19th, 2005 05:51 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I'm in it too, standing behind Casey while she's inverviewed, looking really confused. I think her little interview clip was at 8 or 9 in the morning after we'd slept outside all night...we were all a little out of it.
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:November 16th, 2005 08:56 pm (UTC)
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I'm 99% sure "Beautiful Day" is from May 10th, or at least the speech at the end is from the 10th. Bono says something like "A beautiful day! On my birthday!" and then, "Happy birthday, Jojo" (his eldest daughter Jordan, who shares his birthday) at the end as well. I'm pretty sure I saw a "Happy B'day, Bono" sign during "Beautiful Day" as well.

Still making my way through the whole DVD, though.
From:walrusoct9
Date:November 16th, 2005 09:33 pm (UTC)
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Trust me, it's from the 9th, since I was right in front of Bono when he jumped onto the little audience platform during the 2nd chorus. :)

There's lots of quick cuts between speech from one show and music from another (like "Miracle Drug," for instance).
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 17th, 2005 02:39 am (UTC)
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I think it's stupid to at least not include the second Vertigo as even a bonus feature. If you want something indicative of the tour ... that's it! A lot of people hated it, but I loved it. (Although to be fair, I saw it at Seattle 2, which is the first time they did it, and it was so wildly, kick-assingly awesome, I couldn't even believe it. *g*)
From:walrusoct9
Date:November 17th, 2005 02:42 am (UTC)
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Well, the reason it strikes me as odd is that it wasn't on the setlist, they only played Vertigo a second time because (presumably) they were unhappy with the earlier filmed performances.

However, that encore Vertigo was easily the most intense out of the three, with bono jumping into the crowd and him actually hitting all the notes spot on...playing it at the end of the show meant they were all warmed up enough to really do it justice. Oh well...

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