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November 22nd, 2005

Two Things. @ 10:36 pm

glitterkittykid:
1. In the newest issue of Rolling Stone with Madonna on the cover, the feedback for the issue with Bono was all positive, I was kind of suprised about that, but I thought it was cool. I've even got my punk rock boyfriend-type-guy to read it and he admitted he thinks Bono's a good activist, although he still hates U2. ha.

2. I was listening to the "Dancing Barefoot" and I came across a lyric that I wanted your opinion on.
The lyrics says:
She is sublimation
She is the essence of thee
She is concentrating on
He who is chosen by she

I'm wondering if the meant to use sublimation as a derivative of "sublime" sinc the only definitions I know of are:
1 : the act, process, or an instance of subliming a chemical
2 : the process of converting and expressing a primitive instinctual desire or impulse to a form that is socially or culturally acceptable

I guess the second definiton works, but I'm not sure that's what they were going for.

Thoughts?
 
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From:volare
Date:November 23rd, 2005 06:58 am (UTC)
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you'd have to look at where patti smith's head was at when she wrote it.

from Rolling Stone:

"Written by: Smith and Ivan Kral
Produced by: Todd Rundgren
Released: May '79 on Arista
Charts: Did not chart

Smith started as a poet and ROLLING STONE writer before finding fame as a New York punk priestess. "Dancing Barefoot" is her mystical ode to sexual rapture. "I think sex is one of the five highest sensations one can experience," she said in 1978. "A very high orgasm is a way of communion with our creator." She added that she masturbated to her own album cover photo, as well as to the Bible."
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From:glitterkittykid
Date:November 23rd, 2005 07:23 am (UTC)
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Ah, didn't realize she had written the song. I figured with all the religious termanology it was written by Bono.

Still am interested in people's thoughts on the lyrics though.

And TMI from Patti Smith.
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From:sapphires13
Date:November 23rd, 2005 07:26 am (UTC)
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According to my brother (he's obsessed with Madonna in the way that I'm obsessed with U2), U2 is also mentioned in the Madonna article. She mentions that for her next tour, she wants the whole stage to be like a giant disco ball, and the interviewer says "Like U2's PopMart tour" or something like that. I dunno, I haven't stolen his copy yet to look.
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From:glitterkittykid
Date:November 23rd, 2005 07:41 am (UTC)
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That's cool, haven't gotten a chance to read it yet.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:November 23rd, 2005 06:01 pm (UTC)
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I think the second one does come closest to the intent of the lyric. I guess I think of it this way: generally speaking, women's sexual desires have traditionally been, if not precisely "taboo", then at least to take a place below those of men. For the US, the 1960s forward saw a revolution for women in how sexuality is perceived. Interestingly, I was just reading about something that demonstrates this concept this morning that still exists in some pockets in Western society now, but is probably more representative of the culture here a few decades back in relation to sexuality for Indian women.

So "sublimation" in this case is taking an atavistic and real impulse that women have, one that hasn't been socially acceptable to believe exists and believe is/should be equal to that of men, and take it to a place where it is socially acceptable.

Added to that are the additional connotations of the word "sublime" - feelings of awe, grandeur, etc. - that I'm sure were also intended, though not the main focus for why that word was chosen.

I'm afraid I just came off like an English Major trying to make a point in a thesis paper or something...sorry 'bout that.
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From:glitterkittykid
Date:November 23rd, 2005 09:43 pm (UTC)
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nah, it's fine, it makes more sense this way :)

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