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August 21st, 2006

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mangoprophetess:
I'm currently feelin: disappointed disappointed

I just got back yesterday evening from a two week vacation in Ireland. I had an absolutely fabulous time, but I was quite disappointed in one respect...

I barely heard any U2 songs!

Having stayed mainly in Dublin, I figured I'd be hearing them quite a bit, but I only heard the first three songs off Achtung Baby while in a music memorabilia store specializing in U2 collectables and the version of "One" with Mary J. Blige. In two weeks!

For any LJs here who live over there, is this bitterness after the whole moving their assets to Holland to avoid the taxes thing? Or am I just spoiled because the New York area has been in love with our boys for 20 years?

(Incidentally, I wasn't just disappointed/surprised in the lack of U2. I had been under the impression that folk/singer-songwriters, Britpop, and other music that I really enjoy were quite popular in Ireland, only to hear mainly cheesy pop from the UK and bad American rock).
 
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From:amerrydeath
Date:August 21st, 2006 11:26 pm (UTC)
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The impression I get is that they're not *that* well loved in Ireland. I think Bono said something about it on 60 minutes, the Irish attitude toward celebrity. I didn't listen to much radio while I was over there, but I agree, it wasn't great. I would expect that there would be very little folk music, though--there isn't much American folk music on the radio here!
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:August 21st, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
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If it is the case that they are not that well loved, there are still quite a lot of people (at least in Dublin) that cash in on tourists' love for them. ;)

I didn't really mean just American folk music. I was more under the impression from other people I know/stuff I've read online and in magazines, that Ireland is really receptive to singer/songwriters in general (first country to really embrace David Gray's White Ladder, currently giving a lot of love to Josh Ritter, for example).
From:amerrydeath
Date:August 22nd, 2006 04:15 am (UTC)
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Oops, I assumed you meant Irish traditional music when you said folk music. I am going to be living there for the next four years, so hopefully I'll be able to find something on the radio!
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From:roads_outgrown
Date:August 21st, 2006 11:45 pm (UTC)
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It'd make a bit of an amusement park out of the country if it was only U2 everywhere, yeah?

As it is, the radio in stores and cabs tends toward the cheesy pop/american side. It's pop culture, just like everywhere else. That doesn't mean that folk rock, irish music, etc, aren't popular- they're just not what you hear in centra or whatever. [I will say they *do* tend to play a lot more stuff that America's passed by radio wise though- I sat in a net cafe and got an rem marathon once and was a little more than pleased] However, if you walk down Grafton St, the buskers aren't (usually) playing Britney Spears, if you look on the cover of Hotpress, it's usually not featuring Sum 41 or whatever else, if you look at what the people are listening to, it's generally quite an improvement compared to here. I mean, when's the last time Nina Simone charted in the U.S.?

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From:mangoprophetess
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:05 am (UTC)
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However, if you walk down Grafton St, the buskers aren't (usually) playing Britney Spears

Actually, Kelly Clarkson. But I'm glad to hear I was (generally) not misinformed as to the quality of the Irish music scene. It just struck me as odd not to hear them really at all, seeing as Bruce Springsteen grew up a stone's throw from where I live (he still lives a few towns over), and you can barely escape the man on a lot of our radio. I guess I figured it would be a similar situation with U2 in Dublin. Hometown heroes and all that.

And funny you mention Nina Simone - I almost bought this 40 euro boxed set of hers while over there but remembered I'd already spent *way* too much money already and resisted the temptation.
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From:roads_outgrown
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:18 am (UTC)
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Are you serious? That rules. Last summer they were into the Pixies and Bob Dylan (as they always are, I suppose-- just depends where you catch them). The irish music scene is great, however it is just that- the *irish* music scene. If you stick to going to tourist spots or just shops or whatever you're not going to hear it, generally. But stop in Whelan's for a night, or Road recs or any other place... and you'll be set, you know?

To me it was... I guess reassuring that U2 isn't all over the place there? I go over every year and I don't *want* to get hit over the head with it- I'm sure natives don't either. You can go to rhythm records or whatever for when you want to indulge and for the rest you can just visit the actual country.
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From:roads_outgrown
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:24 am (UTC)
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*I guess I find it reassuring

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From:lydia_petze
Date:August 21st, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC)
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I guess it'd be like coming to Australia and expecting to hear loads of INXS and Cold Chisel and ACDC and Olivia Newton-John - it's a bit of a cliché.

FWIW, U2 gets played a hell of a lot here, too :-)
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From:boriel
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:13 am (UTC)
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or like us in canada hearing nothing but celin dion, brian adams and anne murray... wait... that does happen here lol (but only on radio stations that are mellow enough to play in the office full time)
From:stdivine
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:00 am (UTC)
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I was there for 10 days in May and I only heard One with MJB and Streets. Which didnt disappoint me all that much to be honest what I had hoped to hear was more traditional irish music, not the stuff I hear everyday.
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:08 am (UTC)
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I had hoped to hear was more traditional irish music, not the stuff I hear everyday.

Hehe...that's just funny to me because I probably hear traditional Irish music everyday. My parents = *big* fans. My childhood was filled with as much from the Chieftains and Clancy Brothers as Disney movies and nursery rhymes. :)
From:stdivine
Date:August 22nd, 2006 12:12 am (UTC)
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Oh same here! My grandparents were born and raised in Ireland so they loved to play it and my mom loved to play it but it would have been really neat to hear it over there.
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From:cabaiste84
Date:August 22nd, 2006 10:09 am (UTC)
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The Chieftains are fantastic. :)

I'm guessing you're of Irish heritage yourself? I am as well, and I absolutely ADORE Irish folk music, it pretty much made up 90% of my CD collection when I was a teenager. :P As a matter of fact, U2 just started out as one of my "Hibernophile" bands, back when I was 15.

So jealous you got to go to Ireland, that's amazing! I was there on holiday in 1997...absolutely gorgeous. And it's funny that you should post about this, cos I was only recently wondering to myself how people from Ireland actually see U2. Like, do they consider them one of their best exports, or do they roll their eyes and groan if someone dares mention their name? I dunno, it'd be interesting to find out...
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:August 22nd, 2006 04:04 pm (UTC)
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Yep - 75% Irish, 25% Ukrainian. Although, my mom's mom was from Sligo, so she kind of cancelled out most of the Ukrainian influence. In fact, the first memory I have of U2 was finding out they were from Ireland when I was 4; I was under the impression at that age that the *only* music from Ireland was traditional Celtic.

I'm not really sure how the Irish feel about U2. I was so busy trying to find castles (and oftentimes failing!) that I kind of forgot to ask. :) But I *loved* it there; it was a little chilly for August, but it was so beautiful. My absolute favorite part of my trip was when we visited Galway and the Aran Islands.
From:rocknserve
Date:August 22nd, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
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You obviously didn't visit Bono's brother's place, NUDE. I was in Dublin for 5 days this July (went to the Oxegen music festival) and went in to get a strawberry smoothie (SOOO GOOD) and they were playing all U2. It was really cool.


Other than that, I heard 'Bad' on the bus' radio on the way back from Naas coming back from Oxegen. That was it.

I don't think they're hated at all, I think they're as popular there as they are anywhere. And they're as hated there as they are anywhere (maybe the anger's just a bit more direct haha). At the music festival I met a really nice couple and the guy was a HUGE U2 fan, we talked for a while (all through Placebos set, LMFAO).

On the other side of the spectrum, my tour bus driver said as we drove past the Clarence "Ah, and on your right is the Clarence hotel, owned by Bono and Edge of U2. Yes, the old man still goes as Edge. Haha. Now here's something you won't know..." me: "LMFAO. TRY ME." Guide: "Bono's real name... Paul Hewson. I know! Most of you thought it started with an 'A' and ended in an 'E'!"



ooooooooooooooooooo. Owned. LMFAO Ah well. I didn't mind not hearing them. Not like I'd expect all of Liverpool to only play Beatles or all of Sheffield to only play Arctic Monkeys now. lmfao
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From:supatofu
Date:August 22nd, 2006 01:42 am (UTC)
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wooooooooooow! you went to oxegen??? i was in dublin for most of july, but i didn't get my hands on any tix. that mustve been incredible, my friends were telling me how great of a time it is.

i surprisingly heard quite a bit of u2 while i was there, on the radio, in the pubs, and even when catching some live music. this one guy in particular was performing at porterhouse, and played 2 u2 covers...both times i was in the toilet and had to rush back upstairs.

i felt that u2 was quite well received there. the only negative thing i heard was my neighbors (i was living in ballymun) saying they don't like it when the press says that bono was from ballymun, because he wasn't. he grew up NEAR ballymun, but not quite ballymun. that was it.

it certainly doesn't seem like they are put on the same pedestals that i put them on though, perhaps that is what bono was addressing about celebrity in the 60 minutes spot. thats why you can take a train ride to killiney, pass by his house, edge's, enya's, all in a days visit, and not be stopped, questioned, or searched by police. fans certainly couldn't get away with that here in the united states.

i found it rather amusing that loads of people i met claimed they lived next to bono. they could be in any part of the city, it didn't matter...but when i was asking to get an idea of where they lived, they always started out "oh, i live near bono!" so perhaps he isn't as much of a celebrity as he is a point of reference? ;-)
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From:rockingthemike
Date:August 25th, 2006 11:48 am (UTC)
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so perhaps he isn't as much of a celebrity as he is a point of reference? ;-)

*LAUGHS*
From:vintagefuck
Date:August 22nd, 2006 03:50 am (UTC)
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well, most, if not all, of the people I've talked to from the UK hate the Beatles and Stones, so maybe.. I don't know, they got overplayed? It's weird. But the people I talk to could also have very different taste, who knows.
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From:wolfp10
Date:August 22nd, 2006 05:39 am (UTC)
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I was in Germany for the World Cup, and it was odd to hear the amount of American music that was played. I am still not over hearing a techno version of Country Roads in a disco-warehouse in Munich.
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:August 22nd, 2006 04:07 pm (UTC)
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I am still not over hearing a techno version of Country Roads in a disco-warehouse in Munich.

Eeep...I don't think that something anyone could *ever* get over. That's a bit terrifying - you have my sympathies (and envy for going to the World Cup!).
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From:lothuial
Date:August 22nd, 2006 03:41 pm (UTC)
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That was the same when I was in Ireland in 89...they really like Michael Jackson....its the total opposite.
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From:mangoprophetess
Date:August 22nd, 2006 04:08 pm (UTC)
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Haha! And now they love Justin Timberlake! Oh, the more things change...
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From:kyrillion
Date:August 23rd, 2006 03:18 am (UTC)
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well, as (I think) the only Irish person to reply - I don't think there's a total lack of U2 on the radio around here. you tend to get the latest single or two on the poppy chart stations, and at times you'll get older tracks and album tracks on some shows. but it's the same as any band, really - unless something's been at number one for about four months, there's nothing that'll be inescapable.

also, it's worth bearing in mind that Irish radio is heavily dependent on music from overseas, to the extent where some stations impose a quota of Irish music that must be played. U2 are only ever going to be a fraction of that, as we have a very busy music scene.

that said, at least you heard some U2 - there's an unbelievable amount of crap in our charts right now! :)
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From:rockingthemike
Date:August 25th, 2006 11:47 am (UTC)
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I barely heard any U2 songs!

Not surprised. At a certain point, a celebrity's native country begins to tire of them... I'm Canadian, and the last person I want to hear on the radio is Celine Dion.

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