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January 6th, 2007

Interesting Concert News @ 05:42 pm

mcfrye:
I saw this in an article on u2tours.com about the Vertigo tour, and wanted to post this specific section for one reason:

The band may even experiment with commercially releasing select concerts as downloads shortly after their completion. "That's something we're exploring," McGuinness acknowledged. "In the future there will be more what we call 'band-to-fan activity."'

When I read that I thought YES!, finally the band will start doing what a few (like Pearl Jam) do, and maybe release every show on their tour for download within 48 hours. But then I wondered if they would do it, but only for subscribers to their website. They probably wouldn't, but, who knows, eh?

Here's the link for the entire article: http://www.u2tours.com/news/article.src?ID=1259
 
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From:ladyclayton
Date:January 6th, 2007 11:20 pm (UTC)
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then I wondered if they would do it, but only for subscribers to their website

Or they might release it on iTunes. Either way, I don't expect U2 to make these available free of charge.
From:mcfrye
Date:January 6th, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)
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Nor would I expect them to do it free of charge. And I certainly hope they don't go with iTunes, because I hate iTunes. I can see them doing it the way Pearl Jam does: a section of their site (or whole new site) devoted to the shows off their tour with both MP3 and FLAC available, say $10 for MP3 and $20 for FLAC.
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From:ladyclayton
Date:January 6th, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
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If they put the shows on their website for subscribers, it would be nice if they DID release these at no additional charge, considering that subscribers pay $40 a year ($32 for renewal), and there are no tour presales at present.

My opinion, of course.

And FLAC would be *very* nice!
From:mcfrye
Date:January 7th, 2007 12:26 am (UTC)
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I honestly don't think the band would offer it just to subscribers, now that I really stop and think about it. It would be shitting on their fans who either can't afford to pay for the site or don't see the value in it or just don't have the desire to.

This is a very popular practice (especially amongst jam bands), and it is done to perfection when you have a seperate site devoted to it (call it liveu2.com).

Or you can go the route that Depeche Mode did with the third leg of their Touring the Angel tour. They made every show available both as a digital download complete with booklets and as a CD. It was $20 for both the CD and downloads, and was definately worth it, especially if you were able to attend the concerts. They could even go so far as to set up a booth at shows where you could "pre-order" the CD, if they wanted to go that route. I just really hope that they don't decide to go through iTunes, because I know a great number of people who refuse to support them (including me).

There is a lot to think about in terms of releasing your concerts or tours as downloads/CDs.
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From:ladyclayton
Date:January 7th, 2007 02:36 am (UTC)
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Oh I wasn't saying make it only available to subscribers...just that it would be nice if it was gratis to subscribers. U2.com would likely see a rise in membership/renewal if this happened. A lot of old timers (like me) didn't renew because they felt the site didn't offer enough for the dosh. By providing recent live shows to members, membership renewal would likely be more attractive.

I totally agree that everyone should have access to the shows.

BTW, I've seen other bands do what DM did, and it's a very cool concept -- and VERY popular at the shows I've been to where they've done it. What really amazed me was that one band let people pre-order the CD before the show, and buyers could pick up their CD soon after the show ended. Don't ask me how they turned it around that quickly, but it was awesome to see. The venue was mid-size (the Wiltern in LA), but I love this idea.
From:mcfrye
Date:January 7th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC)
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I know you weren't saying that would make it only for subscribers, but I just thought I'd say that I don't think they would do that, having given it more thought.

The shows being free for members would definately be nice, but I'm not really sure they could do that without upping the membership fee. Even if they were only downloads, there's still the fact that a lot money would be going into maintaining the Live site and the server to house the MP3 and FLAC files (as that is the only way to do it, I think), not to mention whatever recording equipment they would use and having a staff to run the site and people on hand to transfer the music. So, I don't really think they could just do it for free for anyone.
From:mrdrc
Date:January 6th, 2007 11:58 pm (UTC)
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I remember when they put out their first U2 iPod Bono mentioned this idea in an interview. I expected they might try it with the tour that just ended, but no deal. In the interview, he had said one idea would be that anyone with a ticket to a particular show would be able to get the download for free; otherwise a charge could apply.

I guess we'll see.
From:mcfrye
Date:January 7th, 2007 12:27 am (UTC)
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That would be a good idea if they did it right and worked out potential bugs.
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From:hbpen
Date:January 7th, 2007 12:01 am (UTC)
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I doubt it, because it would be too wonderful. *sigh*

Personally, I'd be happy to pay for boots from the band cuz A) You could GET the show you want B) It'd be better sound quality.
From:mcfrye
Date:January 7th, 2007 12:31 am (UTC)
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That's always the thing about downloading audience tapes. You never know what you're going to get in terms of sound quality. And I know there is this huge deal with not diluting the trading pool with MP3 sourced shows, but if the taper did a crap job or the venue just isn't too conducive to taping, then the loss in sound quality really will not matter.
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From:phoenixwish
Date:January 7th, 2007 01:30 am (UTC)
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Yay! It's alway bugged me that they didn't do this. For the longest time, the only DVD I had from the Vertigo tour was Chicago, and there's a big difference between indoors on the first leg of the tour and outdoors on the second leg - it just wasn't like the show I'd been to. Milan came closer, but there's also a big difference between sunny Milan and rainy Copenhagen.

They called the bootleg "Shower in Copenhagen" for a reason, ya know. :-)

It'll probably be available through iTunes, as Bono has mentioned that before.

Am I right in thinking that the paid membership deal isn't that popular or is that just me?
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From:rockingthemike
Date:January 8th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
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Personally (and this is purely my view); if I'm buying all your albums, and singles (which I have been doing for the boys since I became a fan in 2000), as well as pay for tickets (which I paid handsomely for), asking me to pay further as a 'fan' suddenly says nothing of the financial support I have already given them, and is a slap in my face.

And I don't hold this to just U2 either. There are plenty of bands and solo artists that I support, and even fewer where I'll go to the extent of purchasing both albums and singles. In all cases, I would never pay to join their fan club.

I honestly don't mind paying for fan related stuff, but make it worth my money. Website fan subscriptions just simply don't offer me enough.

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