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January 15th, 2007

I'm so 5 days late but still... @ 03:31 pm

playingthetart:
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Did anyone else happen to go see Ali speak about EdunLive at Miami Univeristy in Ohio this past Wendesday?
 
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From:supatofu
Date:January 16th, 2007 12:04 pm (UTC)
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no i didn't. but i wanted to! how was it?
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 16th, 2007 04:53 pm (UTC)
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It was great, really a fun little presentation. And Ali was adorable, though she looked a little tired, but more tired of traveling than anything.

I lucked into getting into the reception afterward where I stood for the most part staring at her and wanting to marry her. And then got to talk to her about Edun and Africa and that was amazing.
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From:hawkmoon268
Date:January 16th, 2007 05:23 pm (UTC)
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That's great that you got to talk to her! What did you say when you approached her? Was she nice? Like friendly-nice or more just being polite?
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 16th, 2007 08:15 pm (UTC)
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She's utterly brilliant. At first I stood there and starred at her and she winked and smiled at me because I'm sure I looked ridiculous. (She's pretty much my life hero...I knew about her when I was younger, even before I knew about U2, so this was huge for me.) And then when we all got around to talking to her I just stood there and couldn't say anything either. Finally I got around to talking to her and she was really amused that I was all blushing and pathetic but she was totally sweet about it and she was amazing to talk to. We talked about Edun and Africa, things going on with RED and stuff politically. And I think she was honestly interested, she seemed that way anyway. She was sweet and just so much fun with everyone, totally relaxed and cool.

And she looks at you the way Bono does. Like she's staring into your soul and you're the only one in the room. She's adorable.

So sexy, too. Heh.

Sorry about the mishap with the original comment, heh.
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From:supatofu
Date:January 17th, 2007 12:13 am (UTC)
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wow, that must've been sooo surreal! she is a hero of mine too. what an honor! did she have any new news about edun? (shhh...i like edun better than red!)
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 17th, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
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RED is good because it's keeping business in Africa, which I didn't know.

And Edun is pushing the EdunLive thing, obviously, other than that they're still just finding ways to regulate between the two and built up Edun's identity.
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From:supatofu
Date:January 17th, 2007 12:49 am (UTC)
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oh don't get me wrong, i appreciate the intentions of RED. but i was under the impression that like Edun, the products were fair-trade. RED is not fair trade, and quite a bit of their products are made in sweatshops, China included.

I'm really excited about the Edun Live thing. I'm trying to get a group to get that going on my campus too. I hope other groups follow the example of Miami U and do the same. it is brilliant, especially for college campuses. College students LOVE tshirts. Most organizations, especially Greek Life, get custom made shirts every year, so I'm thinking after this it will catch on!
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 17th, 2007 03:18 am (UTC)
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Coca-Cola has already picked it up, apparently. I think it's really important that major companies like that do pick it up, so it's exciting.
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From:boriel
Date:January 17th, 2007 03:56 am (UTC)
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i was under the impression that all RED products were made fair trade too. even the ones from china. where did you find information to the contrary? i'd be interested in doing more research.
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From:supatofu
Date:January 17th, 2007 04:14 am (UTC)
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Well, from what I understand, these companies like GAP and Converse that are selling these products are using the same sources that they use for their regular products. Converse used to have a factory in NC, but they have since closed it down years ago. Now all of their products come from sweatshops in China. I haven't been able to look at products other than GAP and Converse, there isn't an Armani store near where I live. GAP has been busted years ago for sweatshops. They are trying to make improvements to their image by participating in campaigns like RED. However, not all of their RED products are made in Africa.

As far as I know, China doesn't have any fair-trade products. That is because of the trade laws of that nation. That's why, when you buy something made in China, it is pretty much guaranteed to be made in a sweatshop.

Now, like I said before, not all of GAP's RED products are made in China. The shirts are made in Africa...and those are fair trade (at least that is what I was told.) Some of GAP's RED products are made in the U.S., so those are a pretty safe bet too. It is hard to keep track because GAP has so many sweatshops worldwide, not just in China.

That's only why I said I preffered Edun...it is just easier for me to keep track that way. I do have some RED shirts though! But I try to check the labels before buying anything.

I'm so sorry! I didn't mean at all to derail this conversation! Heh, this is a subject of mine that I am pretty passionate about and I tend to go overboard. Unless anyone else doesn't mind us posting here, but if you wanna continue speaking please feel free to e-mail me! I'd like to hear about your findings too.
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 17th, 2007 04:58 am (UTC)
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Essentially the products are still made by their companies. Motorolla's facilities are in the US and Gap renewed a 5 year contract with a building they had in Lesotho when Bono came to them asking them to join RED, so technically Gap and Motorolla are, I don't know about Converse and all that.
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From:supatofu
Date:January 17th, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC)
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Ah, well that explains why GAP's RED shirts are made in Africa. But the pins, bracelets, some of the bags and some other things that I can't remember that GAP sells as RED products at the moment are definitely made in China as indicated.

Converse closed down their US factory, now all of the shoes (including RED) are also definitely made in China.
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 17th, 2007 04:18 pm (UTC)
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I think it's great that Converse is involved because obviously people buy Converse, but they only donate 10%. Which means from those $300 pair of shoes they're only giving $30. Which is a lot to Africa, yes, but I'm just a bit blah on that when everyone else is donating 30-50%. I'll buy an expensive GAP shirt or an iPod or a new phone knowing that half of what it costs is going to Africa.
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From:supatofu
Date:January 18th, 2007 05:13 am (UTC)
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Only 10%??? Greedy punks!!!! I agree with you, that is kinda silly when compared to what the others are giving.

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