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January 28th, 2007

Weekend Wrangle @ 02:43 pm

stay_please:
I'm currently hearin: An Cat Dubh / Into the Heart - U2 (10May05)

In bonoffee's post earlier this week, a lot of you responded with live versions of songs that have brought you to tears. Let's explore the flip side of this.

What song have you heard/seen live that you think should never be attempted again? or should not have been attempted in the first place?

This doesn't necessarily have to be a song you generally don't like, perhaps it is even one of your favorites. U2 is a live powerhouse, but surely there have been mistakes along the way...
 
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From:stay_please
Date:January 28th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
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I was very unimpressed with An Cat Dubh/Into the Heart from the Vertigo DVD. That goes especially for the Into The Heart portion. I mean, awww, Bono walks around with a kid, singing about kids, yadda yadda. But how boring a moment was it for the REST of the crowd?

And I'm also going to go with (*gasp* a two-fer?!) the "The Ocean" half of "11 O'Clock Tick Tock/The Ocean" track on the Fire single. That couldn't have been terribly fun or endearing to listen to, imo.
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From:hbpen
Date:January 28th, 2007 07:53 pm (UTC)
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"Crumbs from Your Table" should not exist the way that it is now. It's a great idea. But the chorus sucks soooo hard that it destroys the entire song. I just go "uuugh!" & roll my eyes.
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From:beowulfjones
Date:January 28th, 2007 08:45 pm (UTC)
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Although I actually do like the chorus, I agree: the song could be better. I can't quite put my finger on it... but maybe it does need a second try, à la the single mix of Original of the Species, which, in my opinion, is much, much better than the ORIGINAL Original of the Species.
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From:echoboom
Date:January 28th, 2007 08:00 pm (UTC)
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"the sweetest thing" need to be banished from the catalogue.
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From:wolfp10
Date:January 28th, 2007 08:02 pm (UTC)
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The band played "The Ocean" at a Boston Vertigo show, it absolutely killed the energy they had going after COBL and Vertigo. No one except the handful of true hardcore fans knew what they were playing.
From:proops
Date:January 28th, 2007 08:44 pm (UTC)
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same for me, at the boston vertigo show, i was so pumped and energized, and then they lay down "the ocean".
i would have enjoyed it maybe near the end?
i love the song but it came at an awkward time.
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From:beowulfjones
Date:January 28th, 2007 09:11 pm (UTC)
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The Popmart take on Bullet the Blue Sky.

The best part of the entire song is that first note of Edge's, coming right off his karaoke spot (and, later, his solo Sunday Bloody Sunday). But then Bono's weakened voice coupled with his suffering voice? The clipping of Adam's all-times-otherwise luscious part? The over-over-OVER-funkifying of the guitar? The song just loses its command.

Things nudge up to "a bit better" from the solo on. This is by far the creepiest the tune's ever been -- but it's a deep, unnerving sort of creepy (the best kind!). This half works well as a set-up for the mood of Please but, still... as a whole, this version just doesn't do it for me.
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From:canadanne
Date:January 28th, 2007 09:22 pm (UTC)
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Ooh, this could be a prickly thread. I'm already wincing in anticipation of people suggesting performances I love!

I can't think of anything obvious at the moment, although I definitely wondered what the band were thinking when they started playing An Cat Dubh, Into The Heart and The Ocean (thankfully not at the shows I attended). Surely all of those are total momentum killers that just aren't interesting enough to make it worthwhile - if they want to play something old and rare, there are much better tracks on Boy that they could have chosen.

I guess Numb is a song that never really worked live, as much as I adore it on the album. Stuck In A Moment has always lacked a certain sparkle as well, although I think there are ways they could have improved it.
From:stay_please
Date:January 30th, 2007 02:31 am (UTC)

I like prickly...

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I was a little worried about going with a "negative" thread... but it seems alright.

You're right about Boy tracks, I would've loved to hear The Electric Co. in person. And I definitely agree with Numb, it's the antithesis of live glamour... why play it live?
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From:supacatie
Date:January 28th, 2007 09:55 pm (UTC)
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With or Without You.
To me its just a song for those who don't know any of the U2 catalogue before or past TJT. It drives me insane. It needs to be banished. Infact, I think they could banish playing any song from TJT live. Ever again.
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From:thanks4thefish
Date:January 29th, 2007 02:04 am (UTC)
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Yeah, having to sit through Streets live is a real downer!
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From:axver
Date:January 28th, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
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One. Terrible song on every level, and I can't believe it's been performed at every single full tour show since its debut in 1992. It's duuuull. The only worthwhile version of the song was the 23 September 1997, Sarajevo performance.

Miracle Drug. Just failed to spark. The conclusion should have soared but it flopped all three times I heard it live.

Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own. It's too boring a plod and it dragged down the main set. Thank goodness it was followed by Love And Peace Or Else; that at least quickly restored life to the show.
From:stay_please
Date:January 30th, 2007 02:35 am (UTC)
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Wow, I could not disagree with you more. I will never tire of One, probably for the same reasons you're already over it.

And I love Miracle Drug and SYCMIOYO live... and I could really do without LAPOE... how weird.
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From:inklingfair
Date:January 28th, 2007 11:11 pm (UTC)
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New York from the Elevation DVD. I skip over it a lot.

All Along The Watchtower from Rattle and Hum. Not one of the best covers of a Bob Dylan song.

I'll have to say I liked the Vertigo An Cat Dubh but not Into the Heart. Yes, I remember saying I thought pulling up the boy onstage was cute, but I hated the "My name is Paul" and hand-trick bits. I can just picture Edge rolling his eyes at this.

Yahweh is a song that just doesn't work live, let's face it. *shrugs*
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From:canadanne
Date:January 29th, 2007 10:31 pm (UTC)
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Yahweh *should* have been a great live song, but for some unfathomable reason they decided to play it as a flimsy acoustic number, sucking all the love and life out of it. That was one of the biggest disappointments of the Vertigo Tour.
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From:brandokowalski
Date:January 28th, 2007 11:19 pm (UTC)
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Wow, I'm seeing a lot of very heartbreaking entries here. I loved the live performances of One, An Cat Dubh/Into the Heart, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, Yahweh and even Stuck In a Moment. Now it's my turn to anger a few people. I love the song Exit on the album, but it doesn't work live. Before you guys start beating me about the head, my reasoning for this is, Exit is such an intense song to listen to. It's like being inside someone's head. The mental images it inspires are so vivid and haunting. But to actually see them play the song is kind of like having the secret of a magic trick revealed. To see them play the music completely kills the images that the music is supposed to inspire. That's just my opinion.
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From:playingthetart
Date:January 28th, 2007 11:32 pm (UTC)
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I'm in avid disagreement with Window In The Skies as a whole but I completely hate it live. I think the song was poorly done and I was really disappointed because I think it's great lyric wasted on a music that sounds like a combination of Miracle Drug and COBL and I don't think it fits well anywhere live.
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From:thanks4thefish
Date:January 29th, 2007 02:15 am (UTC)
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Desire live bores me. To my mind, it and New York were the only weak spots in the Elevation setlist.

I also find Pride quite tedious live, although unlike so many others on this thread, it's not from being tired of hearing them play some of their big songs every night. For the other live staples like Bullet, One, WOWY, Streets, there's something about the live arrangement that just completely goes off. The live versions of those songs are distinct enough to be interesting whenever they are played. But Pride is one of the few songs that U2 plays live almost identically note for note as the album version. That is NOT what makes U2 such an amazing live experience.

P.S. That's a neat thing you did with Rowan's eye in your icon!
From:stay_please
Date:January 30th, 2007 02:38 am (UTC)

I haven't a creative bone in my body....

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You're very right about Desire, a much better studio track.

And icon credit goes to ikkin88
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From:wydok
Date:January 29th, 2007 07:07 am (UTC)
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The Vertigo Tour version of Zoo Station and The Fly. They just didn't work. and "The Ocean". Ever.
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From:needleandspoon
Date:January 29th, 2007 07:29 am (UTC)
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Yahweh. Boring studio song, more boring live. I can't believe they put that in the setlist over so many many better songs.
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From:joey788
Date:January 29th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
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I didn't find Yahweh very interesting on the Vertigo Tour. It was pretty dull to me.
Also, any acoustic version of Desire, Stay, or The Ground Beneath Her Feet should be banned forever. Babyface also sounded awful live.

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