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July 8th, 2002

A U2 survey @ 02:30 am

canadanne:
I'm currently feelin: tired tired
I'm currently hearin: The Ocean (in head)

I was extremely bored so I wrote a little survey. If anyone else wants to fill it in, you could either post your answers in the comment section here, or post it in your own journal, or both....

Most underrated U2 song: The Refugee is an example of one song that loads of people seem to hate, and I really cannot see any reason for it - I think it's a great song which I loved from the start. As for the most underrated as in under-mentioned song, I guess it would probably be something off Boy, like A Day Without Me. When Connie did her Boy poll, I think I was the only person who voted for that song.

Most overrated U2 song: Mmm, there are a few that I think are a bit overrated. A lot of people make a big fuss about Gone and Walk On and Kite, saying they're the best tracks off the last two albums, and I just don't see what's *so* amazing about them... if I was forced to vote my least favourite tracks off the albums, those would probably be among the first to go!

Most underrated U2 album: Well... I think it'd have to be either Boy or Pop - Boy because it just doesn't seem to get mentioned as a great album very often (which it IS), and Pop because it gets a lot of slagging-off in certain parts of the world, which horrifies me because I think it's a very strong and fun album.

Most overrated U2 album: Probably The Joshua Tree or ATYCLB. TJT always seems to top these Greatest Album Of All Time lists you see in the papers, and it bothers me simply because I think Achtung Baby is much greater and more deserving of that award. As for ATYCLB, that one's had a lot of reviews saying that it's "perfect" and stuff, and that it joins TJT and AB to complete a trio of U2's best albums. I like it, sure, but I certainly don't agree with that. Plus I'm probably a bit resentful of all those "return to form" comments, because I think the 90s stuff was brilliant. ;p

First U2 song you ever heard: I probably heard a few U2 songs in my youth without really noticing them or knowing who recorded them (for example, I'm sure I must have heard One before, because the first time I listened to Achtung Baby I found I already seemed to subconsciously know the chorus of One off by heart). The first U2 song I heard and knew to be U2, though, was probably Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me, when I saw the video of it on Top Of The Pops.

First U2 song you heard and loved: Staring At The Sun. I didn't like HMTMKMKM when it came out, because I was a strange child and found the song (and video) disturbing. I also didn't like Discotheque when it came out, and wondered why such a load of old shite was at No1 in the charts. I did quite like Staring At The Sun when I saw it on TOTP, though. The next U2 song I liked was Sweetest Thing. It still took me another year before I had the bright idea of getting a U2 album, though.

All-time favourite U2 song: One can tug at my emotions like no other song, but it has to share pole position with Lemon, which fires up my passions with its sexy falsettoey MacPhistoey lemony goodness.

All-time favourite U2 album: Achtung Baby remains the only album which I loved totally from the very first listen. All the others seemed to have at least a small degree of inconsistency when I first heard them.

First U2 album you owned: Achtung Baby, but I got the Best Of 1980-1990 & B-Sides before that.

U2 albums you haven't got (yet): None. Well... the next one. *g*

Favourite U2 era: ZooTV, and I don't even hesitate for a microsecond to say that. The AB/Zooropa era can never be beaten IMO. It was just so damn FUN. The screens, MacPhisto, The Fly, the music, it was all absolute perfection.

Least favourite U2 era: I dunno really. I enjoy the music from all U2 eras. I guess I'm not always overly interested in the live stuff from the early days, and I'm in the minority that wasn't *that* impressed by the Elevation Tour (mainly because I had terrible seats in a terrible arena). None of the other eras hold the same fascination for me that ZooTV does, anyway.

Well, that was a fairly bland selection of questions, but now I'm tired and can't think of anything else, so I'll stop there. Perhaps someone else could come up with some more (better!) questions, and post a Part 2 to this survey, or whatever....
 
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:07 pm (UTC)

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My oh my! Some of your reasons really hit home!

One in particular is this, "I probably heard a few U2 songs in my youth without really noticing them or knowing who recorded them (for example, I'm sure I must have heard One before, because the first time I listened to Achtung Baby I found I already seemed to subconsciously know the chorus of One off by heart)"

While you discovered U2 a little bit after I did, I too recognized many songs off of Achtung Baby the first time I listened to it. Here's my story if you're interested. :)

http://forum.interference.com/showthread.php?s=0d7549d3ca4242a7a471ae8a1b358f34&threadid=58781
From:pratap
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:16 pm (UTC)
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Most underrated U2 song: "Salome"... this one has a great bass line in it

Most overrated U2 song: "Still haven't found what I'm looking for". And it was so overplayed at the time as well.

Most underrated U2 album: The Unforgettable Fire. To me it's pure fire, pure ethereal fantasy, with a lot of soul/heart.

Most overrated U2 album: "Rattle and Hum". Has some good songs on it, but it just didn't live up to the hype for me. I'd have said "Pop", but that was hardly rated, so it couldn't be OVERrated by any stretch of the imagination.

First U2 song you ever heard: "Sunday Bloody Sunday" I was in the library at primary school when I heard it on the radio. I thought "who are these guys? It's great!"

First U2 song you heard and loved: "Sunday Bloody Sunday". The passion of the song caught my attention straight away.

All-time favourite U2 song: This is a very tough question... a tossup between the following: Sunday Bloody Sunday, Pride, With or Without You, and New Year's Day.

All-time favourite U2 album: The Unforgettable Fire

First U2 album you owned: "Live at Red Rocks - Under a Blood Red Sky"

U2 albums you haven't got (yet): U2-3, but then again, it was an Ireland-only release at the end of the 70s, doubt there's any copies in Australia at all.

Favourite U2 era: Early / mid 80s - the War tour/era. They had a lot more passion and fire in the belly - raw energy.

Least favourite U2 era: The Zoomerang/ZooTV/Pop era. Despite the fact that it wasn't bad, and some of the songs they had from the time were a lot of fun which I quite enjoyed, it just didn't grab me at all. I rarely (if ever) listen to "Pop". Just sounded like they were trying to appease the teeny boppers at the time.
From:ju_lay23
Date:July 8th, 2002 09:37 am (UTC)
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THANK YOU!

The Unforgettable Fire is also my favorite album, but you're the first person (besides myself) to actually admit it.

I first listened to the whole cd while reading C.S. Lewis's The Chronicles of Narnia... the cd and the books totally merged to create this fantasy world...

(deep sigh) I LOVE The Unforgettable Fire...
From:pratap
Date:July 8th, 2002 05:07 pm (UTC)
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Yes, it has that magical feel about it as well, and when you imagine wandering around the castle on the cover, makes it even more interesting!
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:49 pm (UTC)
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Okay, here are my results (part 1)

Most underrated U2 song: Yarg! There is no such thing as ONE particular underrated U2 song. There are many! Ultraviolet seems to be the most underrated song on Achtung Baby because it never got any airplay, but at the same time, many devoted U2 fans list it as one of their favourite songs of all time. I always LOVED the song Surrender off of War, although many hate it. It reminds me of being 12 years old and really getting into U2 for the first time. I'd record any U2 sounding songs off the radio. At one point I only had the last verse and chorus of Surrender on my tape, and I was intrigued by it... I knew it was U2, but I had never heard it before. So I'd play that last verse over and over again, "Surrennndeeerrrrrr, Surrenderrrr----oooh, ahhh..." and of course, who can forget that haunting guitar at the end?
Another underrated song is "If You Wear That Velvet Dress" off of Pop, probably the best song on that album (in my opinion). Dirty Day is another favourite of mine from Zooropa. Heartland from Rattle & Hum is my favourite song off that album, and probably another one of my favourite U2 songs of all time, yet you rarely hear it on the radio or hear U2 fans talking about it.

I suppose if I were to narrow it all down, I'd say that "Love Comes Tumbling" is the most underrated U2 song of all time. Not only did it not make The Unforgettable Fire's final cut, but it's such an atmospheric, enchanting song... completely representative of that U2 era.

There! :D

Most overrated U2 song: Probably Mysterious Ways. It's good, but it's not THAT good. Alright, it is THAT good, but I'm kind of tired of hearing it. I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it because it's so overplayed. Paul Oakenfold's Perfecto Mix is much more interesting to listen to than the original, in my opinion.

Most underrated U2 album: The Unforgettable Fire - the album after the War hoopla, and the album before the Joshua Tree hoopla, yet many of U2's most powerful songs are found on that album. It's an album of unspoken power, and has that really reminiscent feeling to it whenever I listen to it. A Sort of Homecoming, Pride, Bad, MLK, Promenade, etc. They all bring forth these incredible emotions.

Most overrated U2 album: Rattle & Hum. I don't really like it, with the exception of a few songs (those songs being Heartland, God Part 2, Van Dieman's Land, and All I Want Is You). I've met many people who absolutely ADORE that album... and people who wish U2 were more like they were then. Bleh. I'm glad they evolved beyond that.

First U2 song you ever heard: Good question. I was born in 1980 and probably heard U2 during various points in my life without realising it. I remember watching the video to Where The Streets Have No Name when I was 10 years old, but I don't remember the song itself. I remember friends obsessing over going to the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast tour when I was in grade 7, and during the first time I heard Achtung Baby, I had already heard One, Even Better Than The Real Thing and Mysterious Ways before.
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:50 pm (UTC)
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(Part 2)

First U2 song you heard and loved: Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses. I remember watching the video in late 1992, hearing it on the radio maybe twice, and overhearing it in the mall one day. It was enchanting, and I didn't know why. I was drawn to it. I wanted to get more of it. That was the song that made me request Achtung Baby for Christmas. I think I received it a few months later. That's when I became a huge die hard U2 fan. All thanks to that song and a few day's listen of Achtung Baby.

All-time favourite U2 song: Bad. No question. Ultraviolet comes as a close second.

All-time favourite U2 album: Achtung Baby (although Zooropa and the Unforgettable Fire are close seconds)

First U2 album you owned: Achtung Baby in March 1993. I listened to it non-stop after getting it and I never put it down.

U2 albums you haven't got (yet): That is a non-question. I own them all. Muahaha. ;)

Favourite U2 era: I love each era for different reasons. When I watch the video of The Unforgettable Fire, I want to go back and witness that hauntingly atmospheric and innocent U2. But it's the Zoo TV/Zooropa era that takes the cake for me. That's when I became a fan, and that will ALWAYS have a soft spot in my heart for me.

Least favourite U2 era: Rattle & Hum. Of course, I was in grade 3 at the time so I was never a U2 fan *during* this era... but it's not an era I'd long to go back to.
From:pratap
Date:July 7th, 2002 09:00 pm (UTC)
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Yes! I love Ultraviolet and Bad, they were *this* close to making to my list. The question was too hard *grins*

So you own U2-3???? Nobody here seems to be missing that EP... if you have a copy or it (99% likely it's not an original - they originally only pressed around 200 EP's for an Ireland-only release) then I'm extremely jealous!
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 7th, 2002 11:10 pm (UTC)

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Actually, no. I wasn't even thinking of U23 as a U2 album... not because it's NOT a real U2 album, but mostly because it's a demo. And if we're going to count demos, we might as well count bootlegs, and when we count bootlegs, we'd be here all night counting the ones we DON'T have.

Hehe. So no, while I don't have U23, I do own everything from Boy until ATYCLB, and a few dozen singles (on either vinyl, cassette of CD) in between. ;)

BTW - Great taste in U2. ;) We have similar views on Rattle & Hum and the Unforgettable Fire. I was typing up my results while you posted yours. Honestly, I swear I didn't copy you. ;)
From:pratap
Date:July 7th, 2002 11:14 pm (UTC)
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Hrmm... according to "The Unforgettable Fire" (U2 biography) it wasn't a demo, but their first EP, which was a small release... hence the 200 only pressings first out.

I've also got Passengers, and the soundtracks which Bono etc. helped with (Wim Wenders movies mainly - Until the End of the World blah blah... great stuff!) And plenty of singles... I'm even nuts enough to buy the same single with different 'additional tracks' on it... no wonder I'm broke!

And yeah, I was looking at your listing thinking "Hmmmm!!! Someone on the other side of the world is like me... scarey!" *grins* I may just have to add you to my friends list! Take that! So there!

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From:canadanne
Date:July 8th, 2002 09:32 am (UTC)

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I don't have U2-3 either. I've never thought of it as a U2 album, because it's never included in lists of U2 albums (on music websites and stuff). I think of it more as a single, because I seem to remember hearing they had a radio competition to decide what should be the leading track (so the other two were sort of like B-sides).
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 9th, 2002 01:27 am (UTC)

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Woo! :D
From:pratap
Date:July 9th, 2002 06:39 pm (UTC)
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Yay!
From:ju_lay23
Date:July 8th, 2002 09:39 am (UTC)
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WOW... I'm getting more and more excited as I read everyone's posts...

Ultraviolet Light is my FAVORITE song (perhaps ever), but I haven't heard too many people agree with me on that one...
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From:zooromancer
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:51 pm (UTC)
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Most underrated U2 song: do you feel loved

Most overrated U2 song: pride (in the name of love)

Most underrated U2 album: pop, because it's my favorite. r&h, because the critics hate it. even in a fabulous review of the best of by the hotpress (great great article, if you want it let me know) r&h got dissed as sounding stale when revisited. i quite like the album.

Most overrated U2 album: atyclb (never did live up to the press)

First U2 song you ever heard: first i consciously tagged as "u2": aiwiy

First U2 song you heard and loved: first consciously tagged: mysterious ways

All-time favourite U2 song: be there, acrobat, dyfl

All-time favourite U2 album: pop. i listen to it when driving. over and over.

First U2 album you owned: boy, uf, war, uabrs, simultaneously in the same purchase. when i decided i liked the band, i started buying them chronologically (minus october), $10 a cd at wal-mart.

U2 albums you haven't got (yet): i have all of the albums. the postal service convieniently lost my propaganda issue with the mexico city cd. i'm still bitter about that one.

Favourite U2 era: pop-mart. they were all strangely physically prime during that tour. it was yummy. edge with that fabulous space cowboy thing going? those tight black t-shirts bono used to wear? bono was looking a little paunchy this time around. and his hair looks greasy when it's long and dyed. he hasn't the hair of the wtshnn video anymore (tho, god, wasn't it lush then?!) at forty-two, he looks better buzzed.
zootv runs a reasonable second because i'm fascinated by the idea of nightown.

Least favourite U2 era: pop-mart. no one in the press seemed to "get it" so all the magazine pictures i would pick up would be accompanied by scathing captions.
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From:zooromancer
Date:July 7th, 2002 07:57 pm (UTC)
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i ammend the underrated album: the unforgetable fire. i buy it for all my "casual u2 fan" friends. they would never own it otherwise, and everyone should have the impressionist album. it's rainy-day dreamy.
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 7th, 2002 08:03 pm (UTC)
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"rainy-day dreamy" - Perfect description! I think I'll listen to it on this lazy, rainy evening...
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From:izzybeth
Date:July 7th, 2002 10:05 pm (UTC)
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Most underrated U2 song: A Sort Of Homecoming.

Most overrated U2 song: With Or Without You. I mean, come on.

Most underrated U2 album: Boy. Without a doubt. [Edit: And Unforgettable Fire. Yes.]

Most overrated U2 album: Joshua Tree. Of course.

First U2 song you ever heard: Um... that I remember... Discothèque on the radio. All I can remember is thinking "what is this shite??"

First U2 song you heard and loved: Elevation. Yes. Only song that made me get up and dance like I didn't have a choice.

All-time favourite U2 song: Streets.

All-time favourite U2 album: ok. I cannot choose between Boy and Pop. Just because. They're both brilliant.

First U2 album you owned: I burned Best Of from a friend, but real-actual-album-wise, ATYCLB.

U2 albums you haven't got (yet): Does Passengers count? If not, their next one.

Favourite U2 era: Boy!! Love them as babies....

Least favourite U2 era: UF/JT. They didn't spend a dime on clothes, did they
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From:scaryrich
Date:July 7th, 2002 11:19 pm (UTC)

Late bloomer

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Most under-rated song:I dont really know which songs are rated highly or poorly, but 'If God will send his Angels' deserves to be more recognised.

Most over-rated song? Is 'Numb' highly rated? if so, that. If not, then 'Elevation'.

Most under-rated album? Pop

Most over-rated album? Joshua Tree

First U2 song you ever heard? Tough one. Like Canadanne, the first song i related to the name 'U2' was 'hold me, thrill me' but I know i had seen and heard 'Numb' and 'I still havent found what im looking for' among others on MTV (and thought they were crap).

First U2 song you heard and loved? Stuck In a moment.
I KNOW i am a late bloomer in the U2 loving department. But i blame the 2 songs i mentioned above for that. They put me off.

All-time favourite U2 song? Stuck in a moment, for the reason above. ie making me take notice of U2. But like everyone, i go through phases, currently 'the fly' is my fave.

All-time favourite U2 album? ATYCLB. It's simply too good.

First U2 album you owned? ATYCLB.

U2 albums you haven't got (yet)? none, but i'm missing a few singles.

Favourite U2 era? This one. Elevation. Amazing.

Least favourite era? early 90's.

'Hold me thrill me' was kind of force fed on me because of the batman film, I thought it was too pop-ish at the time. But that song coupled with the big headed U2 characters used in TFI friday brought U2 to my attention. When i knew the same band was responsible for 'Numb' and 'I still havent found what im looking for', i took a dislike to the band, and when i saw clips of their 'pop-mart' tour i just thought they were weird.

It was around the time that 'one' was suddenly being covered by everyone over here in the UK, and 'with or without you' was being used in the sitcom 'friends' that i started to realise I might actually like a few of this bands songs. But the songs that made me go "wow, this band is actually pretty good" was 'Stuck in a moment' and 'If God will send his Angels'-which I caught somewhere. Later, the release of 'Walk on' cemented my love in stone, and by that time i had my hands on all the U2 songs and videos i could.
I listened to 'Bono and Sinatra- Under my skin' and realised just what an amazing voice Bono has. Then i bought the ATYCLB album and realised how fantastic The Edge is on guitar. I also grew to love the songs i had written off when i was younger, especially 'sweetest thing' and 'Hold me thrill me'. Still hate 'numb' tho...
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From:neverletmedown
Date:July 8th, 2002 12:42 am (UTC)

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I think Numb was highly rated in June/July of 93, but afterwards? I don't think so. But then again, that's just me. I think most people have forgotten about that song.
From:loopaygirl
Date:July 8th, 2002 08:29 am (UTC)

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true. but if we talk about the u2 fan community itself I think it does seem to be a favorite. :/
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From:silvercircus
Date:July 8th, 2002 08:59 am (UTC)
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Most under-rated song: This may be different in this community, but every single U2 fan I have spoken to about Pop absolutely hated Mofo. I love Mofo, i thought it was a great opener for the Popmart tours and a great high speed driving song. I don't know what's so bad about it, it's just a really powerful song.

Most over-rated song? I would have to say Elevation. I don't know what was so great about it... its a good song and all, but after the first hundred times i heard it, it got old and predictable. it lost the... umm... umph.

Most under-rated album? Pop. by far, no question. I think the build up to Pop belittled the actual release of the album and diminished its likability. Also, the tour not setting off on the right foot decreased the popularity as well. However, Pop grew on me more than any U2 album, and it is brilliant in my eyes. From Discoteque to Mofo to Staring at the Sun to Wake Up Dead Man... its an all around beautiful and remarkable accomplishment for such hard working musicians.

Most over-rated album? Joshua Tree - love it to death, but it bugs me that it gets tons of more attention then achtung baby. I'll talk more about Achtung Baby later. :D

First U2 song you ever heard? When the Popmart tours were about to start, and there was a video marathon on MTV that counted down all the U2 videos until the world premire of the video of Pop's first single, Discoteque. The first video I saw on that countdown was the video for Mysterious Ways... I was an instant fan of U2 after that.

First U2 song you heard and loved? When I heard Mysterious Ways, I was sort of in awe of the video and the song... just my luck, the video for One was played right after that. It was One that really cemented U2 as one of my favorites.

All-time favourite U2 song? One. It is impossible to go wrong with this song... it is so emotional and well put together, I love it more than any other. The next song would have to be With Or Without You, or Lemon. Gotta love them.

All-time favourite U2 album? Achtung Baby. I play piano, and once I heard this album, I sat down at my piano for hours learning every note of this album. I played So Cruel until my folks kicked me out of the house! lol It's the greatest album of all time, in my opinion.

First U2 album you owned? The Joshua Tree. It was also one of the first albums I owned, period. It did not leave my CD player for months, songs like Where The Streets have no name and Mothers of the Dissapeared made me appreciate U2 like never before.

U2 albums you haven't got (yet)? My U2 collection is complete, I must say. I am missing the singles, though.

Favourite U2 era? Zoo TV. I wish I went more than anything - i've seen the video, Bono looks like God on stage. I bet if God would come on earth as a rock star, he would be Bono. On the flip side, he would be Macfisto if he was the devil. :D How fitting.

Least favourite era? I don't have a least favorite. As long as U2 was rocking it out in any era, I was a mongo fan of it. Rock on.
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From:zooromancer
Date:July 8th, 2002 09:30 am (UTC)
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mofo is stunning. the lyrics were available on the internet about four days before the album came out and i cried over mofo because i was at that mushy teenage girl stage and i had read all the biographies and knew about bono's mom and whatever. it's always "lemon is about a yellow dress she wore" but you don't really feel his emotion in lemon, i think. but mofo? when i ran out and got the cd and listened to it while reading the lyrics over...just...wow...
From:ju_lay23
Date:July 8th, 2002 09:43 am (UTC)
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i agree to that on so many levels...

that song is simply amazing
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Date:July 8th, 2002 12:43 pm (UTC)
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