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February 1st, 2008

okay, stupid question time @ 02:46 pm

needleandspoon:
I'm currently feelin: confused confused

I've always meant to ask, what's with the We Win, We Loose, It's Perfect slogan? Is it just me, or does this in fact make no sense at all? I've been puzzled by this ever since I first saw it, but I've never seen anyone else ask. Maybe I'm just hanging out in the wrong places.

'splain plz.
 
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From:signifiers
Date:February 1st, 2008 05:09 am (UTC)
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I've never even seen that before! And it's even weirder since "lose" is spelt wrong??
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
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I think it appeared first in the extras material for HTDAAB and it puzzled me deeply then, what with the incorrect spelling and all that completely robs it of all sense and meaning.
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From:rosephile
Date:February 1st, 2008 05:43 am (UTC)
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...Yeah, ^^^ that. Wth? "Loose"?! Like, "we WIN, we ARE loose [i.e. relaxed & happy?], it's perfect?"

Never seen that shirt before either (but then I don't look in the men's clothes usually).
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 05:47 am (UTC)
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It's been on a bunch of different things, starting with (I think) the bonus extras for the deluxe version of HTDAAB. But yeah, either it's some meaning too deep for my poor brain, or they need a good copy editor.
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From:rosephile
Date:February 1st, 2008 05:52 am (UTC)
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Okay, if I bought the 2-disc (second is a dvd) version of HTDAAB, is that the deluxe version?? I was under the impression that there was some like, huge one with a nice book or something (that maybe was online-only or in some other country only?)?

Regardless, I've either misread this slogan (as "lose"), never read, or repressed seeing it!
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 06:14 am (UTC)
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The deluxe version comes with 2 discs (cd/dvd) and a book. Is that the one you've got? You can see it here.
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From:rosephile
Date:February 1st, 2008 07:09 am (UTC)
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Nope, I don't have the book (le sad), just the cd & dvd. Mine wasn't ever that expensive either--I think it was $20 at Best Buy? I don't remember. Definitely not more than that though.
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 09:02 am (UTC)
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The book is really quite nice and worth having, I think. For all the lack of spell-checking, they do know how to put out lovely extras.
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From:rosephile
Date:February 1st, 2008 10:05 am (UTC)
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*sigh* Well maybe I'll just have to go old school and listen to the cd so much it starts skipping, then I'll have an excuse to get that set. (that'll take forEVER, damn!)
Yeah, I'm learning that, from that Popmart booklet (ohhhh, baby!) & the JT super-deluxe box...lovely extras indeed.
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From:writergeek313
Date:February 3rd, 2008 03:30 am (UTC)
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I got my copy of the deluxe edition of HTDAAB on ebay for much less than it retails for. I agree that it's a really nice set and very worth getting.
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From:sapphires13
Date:February 1st, 2008 06:47 am (UTC)
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Bono can't spell. Lose/loose is just one example (check out your Achtung Baby liner notes, in the lyrics for Trying to Throw Your Arms Around the World, the line is written "How far you gonna go, before you loose your way back home")

Spelled correctly, the quote "We win, we lose, it's perfect" is trying to say that whether we win or lose, it's still perfect, because I guess the outcome doesn't matter so much as the journey? Kind of like how in Beautiful Day everything goes wrong, but it's still a beautiful day, etc. *rambles more* It's kind of like a God/Grace thing, I guess... winning or losing doesn't matter, because Grace is perfect?

It makes sense in my head on the abstract, anyway.
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 06:53 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I figured it was something like that, a misspelling in the original version. But what I couldn't get my head around was that it wasn't ever fixed. So I thought there had to be something I was missing. Should have realised it was just Bono's lack of spelling-fu.
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From:sapphires13
Date:February 1st, 2008 07:14 am (UTC)
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Things seem to slip through the cracks in the U2 camp. I mean, it was a handdrawn Bono design, maybe no one wanted to be like "Uh, Bono, you need to redraw this, you can't spell XD" or maybe they just didn't care, and didn't think the fans would be OCD enough to notice/care. Kind of like "Uno, Dos, Tres, Catorce", surely somebody was like "Uh, that's 1, 2, 3, 14.", and maybe Bono was like "So? *shrug*"
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 09:01 am (UTC)
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And worldwide literacy cops another killing blow. Thanks, B!
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From:rosephile
Date:February 1st, 2008 10:10 am (UTC)
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It's better than misuse of apostrophies, in my book. That drives me nuts! (or should I say, "that drive's me nut's"? *cringe*)
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 12:16 pm (UTC)
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Oh god, yes. There should be a special hell for people who abuse apostrophes. Poor little wiggly things, what did they ever do to anyone?
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From:sapphires13
Date:February 1st, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
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That reminds me of another Bono grammar mistake. In the liner notes for The Joshua Tree, the lyrics for Where the Streets Have No Names say "The cities a flood", where city's would actually be grammatically correct ;P

I've also seen him mix up your/you're.
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From:rosephile
Date:February 2nd, 2008 12:02 pm (UTC)
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...Unless he means "the cities aflood..."!
*sigh* Let's just pretend he was in ESL in school mistakenly (and never bothered to get that straightened out 'cause ESL would be really easy), then.
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From:hbpen
Date:February 1st, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
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Ahhh... another good reason to post my Making Fun Of Bono icon...


Hehehe
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From:rosephile
Date:February 1st, 2008 07:11 am (UTC)
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Hahaha, so it's just like "unos", that's all? XD Oh, Bono.
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From:forgottenbelief
Date:February 1st, 2008 12:04 pm (UTC)
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The first time I read it, I assumed it was meant kinda sarcastically to be a comment on war - whether we win or lose, it's still destructive and horrible.

But I tend not to look too closely for meaning on Bono's artwork/slogans. If I want deep, I just stay with the lyrics :)
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 1st, 2008 12:18 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I would have thought that too, if only it said win or lose and not win or loose. That was the bit that threw me.
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From:corianderstem
Date:February 1st, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
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If they left the misspelling in there intentionally, that's the most stupid shit I've ever seen.

If they didn't know it was misspelled, I'm stupendously appalled.

But I'm glad you posted this - they had this phrase (or something else that had "lose" in it) during the closing credits of the U23D movie, and I was all, "Hey, was that a misspelling I just saw?"
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 2nd, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
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I would hate to be so famous that no one would tell me I was making an arse of myself in public.
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From:writergeek313
Date:February 3rd, 2008 03:33 am (UTC)
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I knew I got this Ph.D. for a reason. Bono can hire me as his spell checker!

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