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February 10th, 2008

U2 to re-release Boy! @ 01:25 pm

needleandspoon:
I'm currently feelin: excited excited

(okay, this I am excited about)

According to this article and confirmed by the Amazon listing here Boy is due for a remastered re-release on May 20. There's a suggestion of an extra cd for the deluxe version. U23? The b-sides? Who knows?

ETA: It's just been brought to my attention that not only will Boy be re-released May 20, but October and War are also coming out. \o/
 
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From:axver
Date:February 10th, 2008 04:16 am (UTC)
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There's an absolute stack of material they could use for a deluxe edition of Boy, so it should be really good. There are 22 non-album songs for which studio versions exist, another 5 for which known live recordings exist (and quite possibly studio versions that aren't in circulation), 2 more songs played live for which no recordings exist in circulation, and possibly up to another 7, for a total of 34 potential songs! And that's obviously not including any further songs completely unknown outside the band. I feel sorry for whoever has to work out what to include or exclude on the bonus disc. I just really hope we get Lost On A Silent Planet and The Dream Is Over, as I quite enjoy both of those.

I made a long list of the potential songs over on Interference, so if anybody cares to see it, I can go find the post and copy and paste it here.
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 10th, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
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Sure, I'd like to see it.
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From:axver
Date:February 10th, 2008 05:23 am (UTC)
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Alright. :)

PRE-BOY AND BOY TRACKS

April 1978 demo: Tonight, Trevor, Inside Out, Jack In A Box
1 November 1978 demo: Street Mission, The Fool, Shadows And Tall Trees (was released on iTunes)
February 1979 demo: Lost On A Silent Planet (aka Life On A Distant Planet, The Magic Carpet, Judith, and others), Alone In The Light (aka All In The Light, City At Night), False Prophet (aka I Realise), plus early versions of Another Time Another Place and Twilight

U2:3: Boy/Girl, plus early versions of Out Of Control and Stories For Boys; a demo of A Day Without Me is apparently from this time period too

December 1979 London recording session: Another Day, The Dream Is Over

5-6 April 1980 recording session: 11 O'clock Tick Tock, Touch

Mid-1980 (Boy sessions?): Things To Make And Do

U2 almost certainly also have a studio version of Pete The Chop, as they held onto that song as a potential emergency single until late 1982, when they turned it into Treasure.

Then there are a stack of unreleased songs that may exist in studio form, or that they may have live recordings of. We have recordings circulating of Cartoon World, The Speed Of Life, The Silver Lining (early 11OTT), Inside Out, and The King's New Clothes (early The Dream Is Over). Plus we know of Concentration Cramp and an original song - not a Margin Gaye cover - called What's Going On.

Then there are other song titles floating around that may or may not be real tracks: In Your Hand (Boy/Girl?), Walk Away (early I Will Follow?), So Sad (early Out Of Control?), Hang Up!, and Night Fright.

I should also add that there might be an early An Cat Dubh in U2's vault. I believe an Into The Heart-less early version existed as far back as 1978 and was entirely in Gaelic. I think it was played at the now famous Harp Lager Talent Contest. So that takes us up to a possible count of 35 songs.

OCTOBER/WAR TRACKS

I notice you edited your post to include the news of October/War remasters too, so here's my list of other songs leading from Boy through October to War.

Some early vinyl pressings of Boy: brief Fire riff as a hidden track
Gloria single: J. Swallow
Non-album single: A Celebration and its b-side, Party Girl
New Year's Day single: Treasure (Whatever Happened To Pete The Chop?)
SBS/THBAO single: Endless Deep

Boy Tour unreleased songs: Father Is An Elephant, Carry Me Home, When I Fall Down (early I Fall Down with no keyboard)

My favourite unreleased song that Bono once mentioned in an interview from late 1980: Assaulted By Underpants!

War demos: Like A Song, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Surrender, and shitloads of versions of Two Hearts Beat As One

And surely more stuff hiding in the vaults ...
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From:nebula31
Date:February 10th, 2008 04:54 am (UTC)
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"Re-mastering" is pointless these days from an audio quality standpoint, so it always irritates me when the record companies use that as a marketing tool.

It will be an interesting release it terms of the extra tracks though.
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 10th, 2008 04:58 am (UTC)
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My hearing is too damaged to notice much in the subtleties of audio quality these days, but I saw a lot of people commenting that they thought the remastered Joshua Tree sounded a lot better than the original. Were they just being the audiophile version of a wine snob, or is there something in that?
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From:nebula31
Date:February 10th, 2008 05:29 am (UTC)
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I had this discussion with an experienced audio engineer recently, and he was adamant that while there might be subtle changes, the quality of most modern equipment and studio practices makes "re-mastering" unnecessary for more recent recordings. (And by "recent" he was referring to the past 20 -30 years, I think.)

I'd be interested to know what exactly they'd be changing from the original recordings.

As I understand it, recordings from the 50s, 60s, 70s or earlier, might make better candidates, depending on the equipment that was originally used.
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From:canadiens1160
Date:February 10th, 2008 05:10 am (UTC)
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What on earth are you on about? Anything encoded at 192 kb/s MP3 or higher and you will easily hear differences in remastered records. The Joshua Tree remaster sounds different than the original on just about every track from different instrument volume levels, track volume, panning, clearer bass....

Even on semi-decent PC speakers.
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From:nebula31
Date:February 10th, 2008 05:17 am (UTC)
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Who did the original mastering on the Joshua Tree? Was the quality of the tracks poor? What specifically changed from when it was originally recorded? Personally, I think you're deluding yourself if you think most modern recordings need to be "re-mastered".

It's an effective technique to use on poorly recorded tracks from earlier eras, but very misleading when it comes to more recent recordings.
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From:needleandspoon
Date:February 10th, 2008 05:49 am (UTC)
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I know very little about this, but I'd have thought that tracks recorded way back in 1980 might benefit from some technical updating.
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From:nebula31
Date:February 10th, 2008 06:23 am (UTC)
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Hmm. Well, I guess it's possible, but from what I've heard from some recording professionals (like the person I mentioned in the other related post), the audio quality from a 1980 recording shouldn't be that fundamentally different than today.

It would be interesting to see a specific comparison instead of a vague marketing slogan from the record company.

In any case, I'm excited about it too, especially for the extra tracks.
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From:lothuial
Date:February 10th, 2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
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Ooooh This is exciting to me because I am a classic U2 fan! May is my birthday month so this should be great!
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From:trinimacphisto
Date:February 10th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
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Awesome news! Now I just have to decide what is more important: eating or buying the re-releases!
I think I'm gonna live of sunshine =D
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From:nosferatuvoice
Date:February 10th, 2008 11:42 pm (UTC)
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*is going to be soooo broke*

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