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February 21st, 2008

Is it Just Me? @ 12:48 pm

fiveandfour:
I'll try not to influence your opinion before you give it, so let's start first with a short poll:

Comments such as Edna Gunderson's on this U23D ad are:

Enticing and Intriguiging - inside jokes like this are made of rainbows and win
8(19.5%)
Annoying and Cutesy - inside jokes like this are made of pain(bows) and suffering
31(75.6%)
Secret Option #3 which I'll never explain, NEVER, mwah ha ha. (Or maybe I will in a comment.)
2(4.9%)



Most often, this kind of thing DRIVES ME NUTS. Because it comes off to me as "oh, look at me, I can be all clever with my blurb and stuff". It seems to be selling the commentor and his/her "wit" more than what's being commented upon. You've the "you too" quips a gajillion times by now so you *must* know what I'm talking about. All I want to say to any journalist who's pondering using a pun is No. Just...No.

OK. Mini-rant over. Now come comfort me and pet me and promise to sooth me with some rare live bootleg of Until the End of the World I've never heard before. Oh, and tell me I'm right.
 
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From:sapphires13
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:10 pm (UTC)
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You're right.

Those puns are cringeworthy. Especially in news headlines. It seemed like every time U2 played a Vertigo concert in America, the local papers went nuts with the puns. Day of the show: "U2 poised to give [insert city here] Vertigo!" Day after the show: "U2 found what they were looking for last night in [insert city here]!"

*snore*
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:51 pm (UTC)
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You had me at You're right. Ha!

No, really...your examples from the last tour had me groaning & clutching my head all over again. I had managed to forget most of that, but now the pain of it is back and has lodged right between my eyes.

Gawd, I hated those "quips".
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From:snowfall36
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:40 pm (UTC)
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I feel sort of indifferent to it, so I chose "Secret Option #3".
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:53 pm (UTC)
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Your Zen Master powers are obviously superior to mine because the least little "pun" like this just riles me up. Gaah!

::Deep Breaths::

I'll try working on my indifference.
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From:adriana_is
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:40 pm (UTC)
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Gah!! Just gah!! I want to slap them silly.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
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Yes! Slaps all around!

I'll start with one Mz. Edna Gunderson.
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From:frankenshane
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:43 pm (UTC)
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I like puns as much as the next person but all the U2 puns I've EVER seen are so annoying and gag-worthy.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:57 pm (UTC)
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Yes! That's exactly it. They're always so trite...always so smug...always so convinced of their intellectual superiority when in fact they're just stoopid.

I think that's the bit that gets me the most because in most other contexts I adore word play.
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From:anidada
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
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At best it's redundant -- all the puns one can think of have surely been used before, hopefully to less annoying effect.

At worst, it's smack-worthy -- particularly when you can almost hear the writer/reviewer smugly crowing about what a clever sausage they are for having come up with it. :P
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 21st, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
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Smug - yes, exactly. I was just saying that to someone else and here I see you expressed my thoughts exactly.
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From:make_me_irish
Date:February 21st, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)
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They simply have too many song names that can be used in this way so I think sometimes it's hard for people to resist. But yeah, sometime's it's a little lame.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
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They simply have too many song names that can be used in this way

I'd never thought of it that way before - they're just too irresistible I suppose!
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From:tiffiny
Date:February 21st, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)
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Puns should only be used ironically.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:32 am (UTC)
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My friends and I have been known to work groaners into our conversation on purpose - make one another laugh, pay attention, that kind of thing, and in contexts like that I find puns and word play lots of fun. But this...this fails at being smart, clever, subtle, and/or funny and is unintentionally a groaner - that's the worst kind of pun in my book.
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From:scruby
Date:February 21st, 2008 11:17 pm (UTC)
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I don't know, it's cute, I like it.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
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^^ Refer to icon.



Just kidding. I mean, *someone* always seems to like these things so you can represent for the non-haters.
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From:themegs
Date:February 21st, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
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I don't care about the fact that it's a stupid pun. The point is it's not better than the real thing. It rocked and all, but do you know how hard it was to sit there and not jump up and down screaming once I got the little concert jitters inside? Pun or not, it's FALSE!
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:24 am (UTC)
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Yeah, that aspect got to me, too. Which made it all the more obvious to me that the person was working harder at making people think she was clever than anything else.
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From:leelakin
Date:February 22nd, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
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it's not inside jokes that annoy me...

IT'S FRIGGIN OBVIOUS REFERENCES TO LYRICS. XDDD
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
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Yes, I'd no doubt be less annoyed and more impressed if I ever saw something like If You Wear That Velvet Dress or Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses worked into something. Now *that* would take some work!
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:43 pm (UTC)
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I don't know if I'm hyper-sensitive because I know so many of their lyrics and thus *know* when the writer is going for the pun, but I swear I don't see this thing quite so often with any other band or artist.
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From:felperland
Date:February 22nd, 2008 02:31 pm (UTC)
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Love your icon!
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:44 pm (UTC)
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Thanks - some time ago I came across a whole post of Star Trek icons like this and it was mighty tempting to take every single one!
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From:sophistiquated
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)
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They are predictable and annoying and I HATE them.

I especially hate them if the writer uses more than one.
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From:fiveandfour
Date:February 22nd, 2008 03:46 pm (UTC)
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When there's than one I believe the writer is venturing into Austin Powers territory, but perhaps doesn't realize they were purposefully groaners in AP while his/hers is unintentionally bad. Thus, they are EVEN WORSE.

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