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June 29th, 2003

Nothing has ever been better, before or since...... @ 01:29 am

mmmmjournal:
Sorry for a cross-post....

Has there EVER been a better album than "The Joshua Tree?"

I'm watching VH-1's "I Love the 80's," and they're doing a segment on that album..... but they failed to capture the utter perfection of that album.

Every song is completely awesome, and some of my favorites are the ones you never hear on the radio:

Where the Streets Have No Name
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
With Or Without You
Bullet the Blue Sky
Running to Stand Still
Red Hill Mining Town
In God's Country
Trip Through Your Wires
One Tree Hill
Exit
Mothers of the Disappeared



I'm trying to think if any artist EVER has had a better album with so many classics all at once.... greatest hits albums and box sets don't count.... I'm talking about one single album where EVERY song sounded better than anything you'd ever heard before....

The only others that come anywhere close, as far as I can figure, are "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road," "Dark Side of the Moon," "Synchronicity," and "Who's Next," but not even those are as inspirational as "The Joshua Tree." Those albums can't actually TAKE you out to the desert like Joshua Tree does........

You haven't lived - nothing you have ever done matters - until you've popped that album into your CD player as you get out of Barstow at 90 mph. Fly to California if you don't live here already, and drive from San Bernardino to Arizona or Nevada with that album on. It's like being reborn.

If you agree, if this album has touched your life, please share your story. If you disagree, I ask you only this: what could possibly be better? What is the ULTIMATE classic rock album if not "The Joshua Tree?"
 
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From:scriblix
Date:June 29th, 2003 02:45 am (UTC)
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I adore the Joshua Tree, think it's fantastic. Running To Stand Still is probably my favourite track off of it, I <3 it.

It, Achtung Baby and The rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars are my top three albums. Gah. <3
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From:roads_outgrown
Date:June 29th, 2003 05:14 am (UTC)
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Hmm. Putting ATYCLB by the Joshua Tree, I can't help but feel ATYCLB suffers.

While it has its moments, I don't think it comes close to capturing anything on the Joshua Tree. Perhaps because the JTree seems ageless, not set in any era, or maybe because it transports you to another place, whatever it is, there's something in the actual music that makes it stand out as an album whereas ATYCLB just feels like eleven songs put on one disc. That's what they were going for, so that's fine. They were eleven great songs. But it doesn't really compare to a cohesive album of tunes that all fit together perfectly.
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From:izzybeth
Date:June 29th, 2003 06:55 am (UTC)
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Have to agree with Lis-- JT is the better album. Like she said, more cohesive, definintely, and I think the music is just generally better. JT is rock; ATYCLB is pop. U2 wanted to make a pop album with ATYCLB, which is fine, and they succeeded. But they albums are pretty much two different genres of music. I guess it just comes down to which genre you prefer.

Also, what with advances in production technology, it isn't really fair to compare the two regarding production.
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From:mmmmjournal
Date:June 29th, 2003 01:40 pm (UTC)

Joshua Tree > ATYCLB

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I have to agree with the person who said Joshua Tree feels best, like an album where all eleven songs work with each other, have a common theme, and flow.... rather than just a collection of songs. True, ATYCLB was a wonderful album and thankfully proof to the world that U2 is still at the top of its game. I'd say it's probably their second or third-best album. (Unforgettable Fire, Achtung Baby, and Zooropa are also in the top five, though it would be impossible to rank them.)

I wonder if actually BEING in Calfornia's Mojave Desert, or having visted there, has an effect on the spiritual and overall enjoyability of this album. I can't imagine getting the FULL effect of the music without being in the place that inspired it all. It's an incredible album to begin with but it gets ten times better when you're on Interstate 15, 10, or 40, speeding through the desert....
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From:roads_outgrown
Date:June 29th, 2003 04:15 pm (UTC)
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Mm. I will give you that Joshua Tree is not as accessible as ATYCLB (which makes sense, it's Pop v. Rock, people) and it took me a long time before it 'clicked' in my head. But once the 'click' happened, there was no way I could put it under ATYCLB.

As for the actual songs: Well, production is obviously going to vary. JTree was recorded in analog over fifteen years ago, ATYCLB is current. Have to say though, Joshua Tree certainly sounds better on vinyl. ATYCLB is almost too clean, too sterile. Incidentally, Eno's best production is probably on 'ascent', a non-U2 song. MMMeno.

And then the vocals... Bono's phrasing has improved, but he doesn't have the same power behind his voice. I'd say that WOWY, RHMT, and RTSS easily compete with anything on ATYCLB.

And Edge's guitars? Probably best on Achtung Baby or Pop, really.

Incidentally, my second favourite album is Pop, so this isn't a huge 'old U2 v. new U2' thing for me. Just think one is better than the other.
From:fragility_lily
Date:June 29th, 2003 06:33 am (UTC)
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Yes. It's called War
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From:boomtownrat
Date:June 29th, 2003 11:21 am (UTC)
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Haha, I *love* your icon. :)
From:irisheyedlass
Date:June 29th, 2003 06:37 am (UTC)
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I totally agree - I bought that album last year because I had read so much about it in this community, actually, but I wasn't too thrilled with it at first. I only knew the first three songs and I didn't sit and listen to the whole of it right away. Then one day I happened to put it in because I had read something somewhere about Running to Stand Still, and how it was a song about heroin addiction, and I left it on. It stayed on and I fell head over heels in love :) I've already told the story of listening to In God's Country on the bus while it snowed(talk about absolute perfection), and it just reinforces how incredible that album is. I never ever get tired of it.
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From:jayelde
Date:June 29th, 2003 09:28 am (UTC)
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I think it's all a matter of personal opinion. You think what you think.

As for me...I agree with you. "The Joshua Tree" is the best album (as a whole) I've ever heard. Love it.
From:loopaygirl
Date:June 29th, 2003 11:36 am (UTC)
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ditto! :)
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From:boomtownrat
Date:June 29th, 2003 11:19 am (UTC)
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I'm partial to Achtung Baby, personally. I think it captured a time, place, and mood better than any other album I can think of. Then again, that album pretty much saved my life in a dark time, so I'm biased. :)
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From:mmmmjournal
Date:June 29th, 2003 01:48 pm (UTC)
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You know what? That's all that matters.

If some album has touched you, had some profound effect on you, that's what I want to know. For me it's "The Joshua Tree," "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road," "Who's Next," and the first Traveling Wilburys album. Of those four, none has reached me or changed my life the way JT did.

I love collections from people like Paul Simon, Patsy Cline, Tom Petty, Elton John, the Eagles, Eric Clapton, the Who, Led Zeppelin, and Lynyrd Skynyrd.......

I'm glad to hear that U2 turned your life around and that you're here today to enjoy everything that's happened SINCE Achtung Baby, which is indeed a very cool album.
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From:u2biscuit
Date:June 30th, 2003 08:22 am (UTC)
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If we're talking about classic rock albums, there are several that are at least on the same level as JT. You mentioned a few, Dark Side of the Moon being right up there, but there's also Led Zepplin IV (Rock and Roll, Black Dog, Stairway to Heaven, Misty Mountain Hop, Goin' to California, When the Levee Breaks!! Drive down into the delta while listening to that album and tell me it doesn't invoke a landscape.), which is like a religious experience, and Sgt. Pepper. That record essentially invented the "classic rock album". I even happen to think that Acthung Baby is more complete as an album than JT, though I acknowledge it doesn't have that "classic album" feel.

I'd say JT was definitely the album of the 80's, and it is certainly ONE of the classic rock albums. It's a member of a pretty exclusive club. And it is probably the greatest album for travelling and invoking a landscape. But as classic rock albums go, there are several that are at least as good or better.
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From:mmmmjournal
Date:June 30th, 2003 08:42 am (UTC)
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Led Zeppelin has SEVERAL albums which are remarkable in and of themselves.... I'm personally partial to "Houses of the Holy" since it has, among other epic tunes, "Over The Hills and Far Away."
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From:bluekarma42
Date:July 1st, 2003 01:39 pm (UTC)
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"You haven't lived - nothing you have ever done matters - until you've popped that album into your CD player as you get out of Barstow at 90 mph. Fly to California if you don't live here already, and drive from San Bernardino to Arizona or Nevada with that album on. It's like being reborn."

Ah! I love you! :D And I completely fucking agree.

I'm planning a solo road trip sometime over the next few years (during the summer) for the sole purpose of driving through the desert alone blasting music. Another great artist for desert driving is Train (but really only their first album).

You Rock!

Kat
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From:mmmmjournal
Date:July 1st, 2003 06:22 pm (UTC)

aw cool :)

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I actually did exactly that...... a solo road trip in April of 2002 from San Diego to Salt Lake City and back.... all in about 48 hours!


I had another reason to go, since a friend of mine in SLC was leaving the country and I wanted to say goodbye, but the trip was incredible thanks to "The Joshua Tree" and the Eagles' box set.

That was probably one of the top five weekends of my life. Have a great trip and hopefully I'll find another excuse to drive Interstate 15 for another 12 hours!
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From:bluekarma42
Date:July 2nd, 2003 12:54 am (UTC)

Re: aw cool :)

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Ah, you're my hero! Thanks for the inspiration to actually do this someday. ;) I've been dreaming about it for years.

Hey, who needs an excuse? You should just go on some random weekend. Everyone needs to be free now and then. :)


Kat
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From:mmmmjournal
Date:July 2nd, 2003 02:12 am (UTC)

Re: aw cool :)

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Go back a coupla pages in my journal...... I went to Yuma, Arizona for no reason just a couple of weeks ago. It was VERY refreshing and it was only 104 degrees that day.... good thing I made the trip before it got hot out there!

Definitely a lot of fun.










Perhaps a good long drive will give you time to realize that Michael Moore is an ignorant windbag. :P

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