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January 12th, 2002

"Watch MORE MTV...2!" @ 04:13 pm

hapavox:
Yeah, yeah! We all know how MTV really sucks but MTV2 has devoted a good slot of its programming to our band. I just finished watching MTV2's "U2 Video Timeslide" that was approximately 4hours long. However, the span of 4 hours was more like 2hrs. 45min. worth of actual videos. The rest were commercials and MTV2 Newsflashes. Videos that were played included almost all U2 music videos spanning from 1980-2001.

Again, almost everything from the "Best of 1980-1990" video compilation were shown. However, here are some video highlights from MTV2's Video Timslide program:

"A Celebration"--I thought this video would never see the light of day. I suppose MTV played it once in 1982 but never again as with all other video classic these days. Again this was a single originally released in 1982 but never appeared in an album. MTV2 finally decides to play it. If you own the Island Records Official "U2 Video Sampler 1987" Promotional Only VHS tape then you've seen this music video before because it appears as the first video in the compilation.

"Two Hearts Beat As One"--Another rare video finally aired. This can also be found on "U2 Video Sampler" VHS tape from 1987 as mentioned above. It was shot in France and directed by Meiert Avis. Peter Rowan(The 'Boy') can be seen in this video.

"Night and Day"--Very cool. I saw the original version that appeared in the "Red HOT + Blue"
VHS compilation in 1990. However, MTV2 decided to somehow air this version also known to many U2 fans as the rare "Razorblade Version". The original on the Red HOT * Blue tape along with the ABC-TV Special did not include the scene where Bono is shown cutting his thumbs with a razorblade. The Amerikans thought it was too much to handle I guess. However, the European audiences as well as Japanese TV were treated to this 'Razorblade Version' back in 1990.

"If God Will Send His Angels"--Version 1. This is the original version that doesn't include the snippets of Version 2, which contained scenes from the City Of Angels film.

"All Along the Watchtower"--Lovetown Tour Special from Sydney, Australia 1990.

"God Part II"--Lovetown Tour Special from Sydney, Australia 1990.

Ok, those were the highlights of the show based on my observations. MTV2 seems to have goofed-up the scheduling because they won't be showing the "MTV2 LIVE CONCERT U2" listing that they've posted on your local listings. Instead, Booker(MTV2 VJ) has announced that they will be airing an EXCLUSIVE U2 LIVE CONCERT on *FEBRUARY 2, 2002* on the eve of the band's superbowl appearance. Anyway, my hunch is that this concert was filmed from Madison Square Garden because that's what the original listings say. It was supposed to air starting today but I guess MTV2 is holding off until Superbowl Weekend. Stay tuned..
 
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From:eclipse69
Date:January 12th, 2002 02:39 pm (UTC)
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A good job by MTV2 showing 37 videos. But where was the original 1985 video of Bad, the Red Rocks clip of 11 O' Clock Tick Tock that used to be shown as a video back in the day, and where was Staring At The Sun, and The Fly? I thought they had a live video for Please as well.
It was nice finally getting to see A Celebration. I knew of it, but never ever saw it before. It's dumb how they showed it during the 1988-89 position instead of after Gloria. I thought I had missed my chance to ever see it. I am so glad I finally found that single on CD. It took me long enough.
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From:hapavox
Date:January 12th, 2002 02:50 pm (UTC)

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Ah yes! Thanks for correcting me. 'The Fly' was missing. As was the videos for "Please"(Live from Rotterdam) and "Please"(conceptual version dir. by Anton Corbijn). I'm not so sure as to why they aired 2 version of 'Pride' and 2 versions of 'One'. Wtf? Sometimes, people already get the point when you've shown one version already. It was a decent program just to have the 'new fan' catch up I suppose. However, us diehards cannot be fooled. I also think that MTV2 probably had an 'intern' do the selection of videos. Almost put it together but not quite. Yeah, they did have their eras somewhat confused. A cd single of 'A Celebration?' That's extremely rare!:) I only have the 7inch on vinyl..

So, I guess the date for the U2 LIVE FROM MADISON SQUARE GARDEN show will be 2/2/02. It's also listed as only being 60min. in length. So, lots of editing in that one. Well, somebody once tried to sell me the video outtakes of "Live At RED Rocks" that SHOWTIME MOVIE NETWORK originally aired in 1983. I think it was just 30min. of the songs that did not make the original video. Now, I'm looking for it..
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From:eclipse69
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:03 pm (UTC)

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How many dates did U2 play the Garden on the tour? I hope they filmed on a good night. I doubt if I will be fortunate enough to catch Out Of Control on that concert they are showing. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I have seen neither video for Please. I could have done without the live Pride video. I have the movie. No, A Celebration isn't on a CD single. It can be found on the 1982 edition of EMI's NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC CD. They were released in 1999. A Celebration wasn't on the vinyl volume back then though. Lucky break. I picked mine up at Virgin in downtown San Francisco. I also can tell you where to find the studio version of 11 O' Clock Tick Tock on CD if you're interested.
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From:hapavox
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:15 pm (UTC)
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<lj user="u2lynne") would probably know the dates of the shows more than I would. But my guess was that they did *3* shows at the Garden because a friend of mine went to 2. "Out of Control" could be a possibility but I doubt it. However, there is/was a rumour floating around that VH1/MTV recorded the IRVING PLAZA show back in December 2000. It has never seen the light of day but it could be a possibility too. MTV2 has not really gone into specifics as to what they will air on 2/2/02 but we'll see. Again, as you know they just said, "An Exclusive U2 Concert that nobody has seen before to be aired on February 2nd." I have to check out that cd compilation your mentioning. Actually, I have the cd version of "11 O'Clock Tick" on a boot compilation. Where did you find the other studio version on cd?
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From:eclipse69
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:34 pm (UTC)
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The studio version from 1980 was produced by Martin Hannett. He worked with Joy Division, New Order, Magazine, etc... A collection was released in 1998 on Debutante Records, a UK Division of PolyGram. It is called AND HERE IS THE YOUNG MAN. It's a fabulous compilation CD. He only produced that one track if I remember correctly.
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From:hapavox
Date:January 12th, 2002 04:20 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, I know about Hannett. He was going to produce 'Boy' but got so depressed/drugged/boozed after Ian Curtis' death that he also later perished himself. As a result, Steve Lillywhite was given the go-ahead to produce U2's debut album.

Well, thanks for telling me about the compilation. Title sounds like a spin-off of Joy Division's "Here Are the Young Men"..
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From:hapavox
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:26 pm (UTC)

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Ah shietz! I think my original posting got deleted. Anyway, I believe they played *3* shows at the Garden last October. I'm assuming one or 2 of those shows got filmed. However, there's been a rumour going on that the IRVING PLAZA NYC gig back in December 2000 was videotaped by either MTV or VH1. That show may also be a possibility...slim but I wouldn't count it out. Again, as you may know MTV2 just said to tune in on *FEBRUARY 2nd* to watch an EXCLUSIVE LIVE U2 CONCERT that nobody has seen before. Interesting.
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From:chaizzilla
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:50 pm (UTC)
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in the 80s we were angry that u2 wasn't getting airplay instead of all those shit bands, now we're mad b/c those shit bands still get played when there's awesome bands like u2 to play instead. ya know?

i've tried to figure out what specifically made the term "alternative music" go sour in my mouth somewhere around when "jane says" showed up on the radio and the dead kennedys got reclassified from "hardcore" to "punk", and i still don't know.

what scorches my whiskers even more is that there are bands who have or are giants in mainstream music and are also some of the best bands out there. u2 is the most stellar example of a band that left the gate running and didn't waver that i can think of off the top of my head, though there are bands that came and went (at least here in the states) with years of little-known genius material, as well as bands with that bounceback power like the stones, tom petty, and yea aerosmith though i've had a beer dumped on my head for that one.

i mean hell.. why am i seeing friggin brittney daddy's-spear-up-her-butt on mtv when stuff that doesn't suck is totally underplayed? and no i'm not one of the "rock is all there is" techno or pop r&b phobes though those genre's dominance of social gatherings regardless of the merit of individual works put a lot of wear and tear on my aesthetic tolerance... annnnnyway

i spose i'm just saying u2 would wipe the floor with most of the tripe on mtv ina barfight, so all i can figure out is there's a lot of scary cable subscribers out there who are your neighbours and who vote and yea it suuuuuucks.

or i mean just because mtv's the only room at the inn doesn't mean it doesn't suck. economics are depressing.
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From:chaizzilla
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:51 pm (UTC)
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ok i confess, i was actually just blowing steam b/c i don't have cable so i didn't get to see it.
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From:hapavox
Date:January 12th, 2002 04:29 pm (UTC)
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No problem at all. I don't have cable myself at my own place. I have to go to my dad's house just to see it..
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From:echoboom
Date:January 12th, 2002 03:51 pm (UTC)
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37 video's is pretty bad ass..... is the vid for 'a celebration' the one where bono is running around on a catwalk in a red jacket? i remember seeing that when mtv did 24 hours of u2 in 1997.....i recorded almost the whole days worth of stuff, but gave a few tapes away, and the only one i have left, looks like crap on a new vcr when played...it seems the crappy vcr i had at the time screwed it up for all other players :(....
but vid with tracking lines are better than none at all....
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From:hapavox
Date:January 12th, 2002 04:27 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that's the video alright! I also have the original 1997 "U2:A-Z Videos" on tape that MTV originally aired at the time. The program today is similar with the inclusion of the stuff from 1998 and 2001 of course.

You can still catch this "U2 Video Timeslide" that's airing throughout the rest of this weekend until January 18th! I'm really waiting for *FEBRUARY 2nd* to see what MTV2 has up their sleeve in terms of this 'U2 live concert' they're trying to promote..
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From:u2alliwantisyou
Date:January 13th, 2002 06:05 am (UTC)
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I bet there's no chance they'll re-air this thing, huh? I don't have cable here at home and I'm going back to school today (I love living on campus). Anyone have a clue?
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From:hapavox
Date:January 13th, 2002 07:42 am (UTC)

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It airs throughout the week until January 18th! Check your local listings for times..
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From:u2alliwantisyou
Date:January 13th, 2002 02:33 pm (UTC)
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WOO HOO! I got back to my dorm room and turned on the TV just in time. Even got the blank tape in before it started! :)
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From:boomtownrat
Date:January 14th, 2002 09:07 am (UTC)
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I got to see several videos that I'd never seen before (I didn't have cable for three years, during the Pop era). But I do remember that MTV used to air "A Celebration", rarely. I think I must have taped it at some point. And now that you mention an edited version of "Night And Day", actually, I think I've only seen the original version with the razor.

The lack of certain videos was indeed annoying. I keep hoping that one day they'll issue a DVD with all their videos.
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From:hapavox
Date:January 14th, 2002 03:11 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, the 'razorblade version' I've never run into before until this past weekend. I have the 'Red, HOT, + Blue' video compilation and the version on there is the edited version. Anyway, it's very cool even though the razorblade footage is only featured in a split second.

"Staring At the Sun"(jake scott version), "Staring at the Sun"(Miami Version dir. by Morleigh 'Ms. Edge-Bellydancer' Steinberg), "The Fly," "A Day Without Me"(Live from Dublin National Stadium 1980), "11 O'Clock Tick Tock"(Live from Liverpool 1980), "Bad"(video from "Unforgett. Fire Collection"), "Love is Blindness"(video from "Numb 3 Track Video Coll.), "Until the End of the World"(dir. by Wim Wenders), "I will Follow"(studio version), "Numb Remix"(from Numb 3 Track Vid. Comp.), "Discotheque"(Steve Osborne Remix), "Spanish Eyes"(from Outside is America Documentary), "In God's Country"(from Outside is America Documentary), "Please"(dir.by Anton Corbijn), "Please,"(Live From Rotterdam) "Walk On"(Brazil version dir. by Jonas Ackerlund). I think that's all I came up with it...

I wish they would've played "Pride"(Version 3 directed by Anton Corbijn). My friend said he saw this video once on NBC's old 'Friday Night Videos' show back in the early to late '80s according to him. From what I could gather around from my sources it was called the 'Faces Version' because it just focused on the faces of the 4 band members. It was also said to be shot on location at Heathrow Airport in London. Have you seen this one?
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From:muzzypal
Date:January 15th, 2002 02:08 pm (UTC)
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Yeah I was GLUED to my TV for almost the entire day... unfortunately I caught it late. I know MTV2 aired this a couple times before while U2 was on tour here last year. But it was cool seeing all the videos I've never seen before. Also, have you noticed that MTV/VH1 hardly ever show U2 videos? That sucks! Also, thanks for the info!
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From:hapavox
Date:January 15th, 2002 04:28 pm (UTC)

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No problem. You can also catch the timeslide on Friday, the 18th. I'm not sure many people have caught on yet, but *FEBRUARY 2nd* is another important date to catch U2 on MTV2. I believe they will air a never-before-released edited version of *U2 LIVE from MADISON SQUARE GARDEN* on that date according to listings and Booker's(MTV2 VJ) annoucement during the final hour of 'U2 Video Timeslide'.
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From:muzzypal
Date:January 15th, 2002 07:26 pm (UTC)

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ooooo cool... or maybe MTV will have a live feed at the Super Bowl? That is the date of the SuperBowl right? Either way, I'll keep my eyes peeled on those dates... thanks a lot... I'll keep my VCR loaded!

By the way, can I add you as a buddy? I LOVE meeting new U2 fans!!
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From:hapavox
Date:January 15th, 2002 07:50 pm (UTC)

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Well, *FEB.2nd* is on a Saturday and the Superbowl is on Sunday *FEB.3rd*. I'm assuming MTV2 wants to get some ratings and numbers in as well by showcasing the concert on the eve of the biggest football game in Amerika..

Sure, you can add me..

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