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November 4th, 2004

Is it just me... @ 08:52 am

corianderstem:
... or is "Red Light" the worst thing U2 have ever subjected upon the world?

There are other songs I don't care for, whether they're boring (a few middling tracks on "October," or "Grace" from ATYCLB), or kind-of-interesting-but-ultimately-not-up-to-par ("Miami," "Some Days Are Better Than Others").

But I can think of no other U2 song that is as annoying and just plain bad as "Red Light," even if you took away those irritating backup singers.

Is it just me?
 
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From:malaria
Date:November 4th, 2004 09:08 am (UTC)
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I agree. I love our boys and everything they've ever created - except Red Light ;)
From:johnny_ever
Date:November 4th, 2004 10:52 am (UTC)
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Oh, c'mon! We all know that THE REFUGEE is 10x worse than Red Light. 10x SQUARED!

Then again, almost half of War makes me feel like the critter in my icon. I think October is considerably better, particularly because it is more balanced. Then there's POP... ;)
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From:tintaglia30
Date:November 4th, 2004 09:08 am (UTC)
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Fraid so, I quite like that actually, one of the few I DO like of War, which is my toss up least fav album of pre-nineties..other being Unforgetable Fire. Don't think much of Still Haven't Found (either incarnation)or Even Better Than the Real Thing...
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 09:25 am (UTC)
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"War" was never one of my favorites either, but the older I get, the more I like it.

"Even Better" is one of the songs that I used to be fairly "eh" about, but now I love it.

I think "I Still Haven't Found" is a great song, but I'm sick to death of hearing it. Ditto "Pride."
From:afraid_of_usa
Date:November 4th, 2004 10:03 am (UTC)
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Meeeeeh...

"Grace" is one of my favorite songs from ATYCLB, I love the simplicity of it and the overall message to the song. To me, "Wild Honey" or "When I Look At The World" (one of the most paint-by0numbers U2 songs ever) are far worse tracks than any of the ones that anyone has mentioned so far.

But even the greatest band in the world is capable of putting out shit.
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 10:25 am (UTC)
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There's definitely something to be said for the simplicity of "Grace." I'm with you on the dullness of "When I Look at the World," but I think "Wild Honey" is a sweet little ditty, something lighthearted and ... well, sweet. *g*

And yeah, I'm with you on a great band putting out shit. I've had some "die-hard" fans of bands tell me that basically, I was a Bad Fan if I didn't love everything they put out. HA!
From:teasquare
Date:November 4th, 2004 10:40 am (UTC)
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no kidding, I love red light, but war is my favorite album. I always thought "I through a brick" from October was a little rediculous. I find "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" too anoyingly sugar coated, though the gospel version is interesting.
From:steakumms
Date:November 4th, 2004 11:14 am (UTC)
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Oh I dunno, I think "Stuck in a Moment..." might be the worst of the lot. Everything about it screams Backstreet Boys to me. But yeah, "Red Light" is atrocious, as is the whole second side of War (except "40" of course). Come to think of it, War and ATYCLB are probably my two least favorite U2 albums, even though both have a few of their best songs too.
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 11:17 am (UTC)
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Really! I know there's a good number of people who don't like that song, but Backstreet Boys? That's a new one. *g*
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From:isagungan
Date:November 4th, 2004 11:33 am (UTC)
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ugh guys...what about..."peace on earth'?
I mean...Im all for subtle messages but this one ..I just skip each time.
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 11:36 am (UTC)
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Ooh, that one's kinda bad too. And the message is anything but subtle. It's a anvil of Peace on Earth!

BONK

"Ow!"
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From:izzybeth
Date:November 4th, 2004 12:05 pm (UTC)
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Red Light: not their best, but not their worst.

Their Worst: frickin' With A Shout. hate it hate it hate it. i find October as a whole difficult to listen to, just because it's so damn preachy and let's-hit-everyone-over-the-head-with-our-beliefs. i appreciate October for what it is (passionate, simple, honest), but With A Shout just pisses me off. even Edge says he could go without ever hearing that one again.

as for the others you mentioned...

Grace: i adore this track. it's just... ok, i complained about Bono's preachiness in With A Shout, but this is a completely different point of view. it's the view of an adult man looking back, etc., as opposed to the view of a very young man with a fire under his ass. it's much more mature.

Miami: i quite like this one. i think i like it more for the music than the lyrics. the guitar is so sharp and menacing, and the drums are amazing.

Some Days: this one i like too. some of the lyrics are just classic ("your skin is white but you think you're a brother") and it's so easy to see Bono laughing at himself for this little complaint of a song. and the bass! it talks!! love.
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From:canadanne
Date:November 4th, 2004 12:32 pm (UTC)
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Red Light is definitely the worst track on War, but I think it's alright. The backing singers bugged the holy hell out of me at first, but I guess I'm used to them now.

I've never understood why The Refugee is so unpopular, I think it's brilliant! One of my favourites from the album.
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From:arashi_soul
Date:November 4th, 2004 01:35 pm (UTC)
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I loved nearly all of War the first time I listened to it; as compared to The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby, it was so much more energertic and, in a way, exciting, and yet still an excellent album. Nevertheless, I could probably do without "Red Light," but I certainly do not hate the song.

As a contrast, while I enjoyed War in its entirety on the first listen, it took me over a year to even care about the second half of All That You Can't Leave Behind.
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From:dj_bennyb
Date:November 4th, 2004 02:15 pm (UTC)

Thank you VERY much, Island Records execs...

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I will say it again, the worst thing that the lads have ever foisted on their fans was Rattle and Hum, both the movie and the soundtrack. It was Bono at his most pretentious. I still get livid when I see him reading "When Love Came to Town" to BB King like it was the most brilliant thing ever penned (it's not). Or, "Charles Manson stole this song from the Beatles. Today, we're stealing it back." I'm sure Paul, George and Ringo were ever so happy. Rattle and Hum was Island Records getting greedy, and Bono (in particular) taking his rock-star status WAY too seriously.

True, there are some good moments on R&H ("All I Want is You" is not one of them. It's their most insipid love song ever. Shite song, shite video). But anything from the Joshua Tree b-sides is better than R&H.

Why do I hate it so? 17 years ago today (and yesterday) I was at their Joshua Tree tour show in Minneapolis/St. Paul. Absolutely brilliant both nights. R&H was trying to capture the atmosphere and the brilliance of that tour, and in my opinion, did not even come close. As a tour album and video, "Under a Blood Red Sky" is still best.
From:afraid_of_usa
Date:November 4th, 2004 02:49 pm (UTC)

Re: Thank you VERY much, Island Records execs...

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I read in one of many U2 bios and song explanation books that "Heartland" is their ONLY love songs and "All I Want Is You" is, like "With Or Without You", about relationships that DON'T work.

Also, I realize that it's entirely semantics, but I take "we're stealing it BACK" (emphasis on stealing it back) to mean that they're giving the song back to the Beatles and restoring some sort of positive feel to it as oppose to the black stain on it from the Manson stuff. I don't think Bono meant that now it was a U2 song.

The only thing I dislike about R&H is the needless inclusion of "The Star Spangled Banner" at the beginning of "Bullet the Blue Sky" and how they make it seem like it was a part of the live song as recorded by U2 when even the album credits state that it was Hendrix the entire time and was just creatively blended in.
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From:kyrillion
Date:November 4th, 2004 02:36 pm (UTC)
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Am afraid I can't stand Red Light either. I'm think to think of something I dislike more but I can't... hmmm. Maybe some of the Best of 90s remixes.
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 03:00 pm (UTC)
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Ugh, those remixes are so awful I never even consider them.
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From:mtheu2nut
Date:November 4th, 2004 05:52 pm (UTC)
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The cover of Fortunate Son. I want to cry every time I hear it. And not for good reasons.
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 07:12 pm (UTC)
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Oh, ugh. I agree vehemently. I do, however, really like the cover of "Paint It, Black."
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From:screendoor3
Date:November 4th, 2004 06:59 pm (UTC)
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"Wild Honey" is a piece of shit, probably my least favorite U2 song. I don't like "Stuck in a Moment" either. "Miami" grew on me and I love it. "Some Days Are Better Than Others" helps me when I'm depressed.

I think everyone's right about Rattle and Hum. Though I love the movie, "When Love Comes To Town" just annoys me, but I think their worst song is their cover of "All Along the Watchtower," just below "Wild Honey."
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From:screendoor3
Date:November 4th, 2004 07:04 pm (UTC)
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But "Van Dieman's Land" is the shizzle.
From:seven86
Date:November 4th, 2004 07:02 pm (UTC)
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do you know where i can get the song "what's going on?" the 9-11 one with bono and the rest of musicians PLEEASE THANKS
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From:corianderstem
Date:November 4th, 2004 07:10 pm (UTC)
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It's on Amazon:

Linky link link link
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From:siorai_gra_
Date:November 4th, 2004 10:28 pm (UTC)
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I like Red Light! But War is my favorite album. The only album I skip any songs on is Unforgettable Fire. It has some of my favorite songs on it, but as an album, it is just too Eno. Pop is one of my favorite albums. I couldnt stand skipping a track on any album but UF, all the other songs while not all being at U2's highest level, are awesome

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